Airlines In The Philippines II

[frequentflier]

This is great news! Wonder if they have enough widebody AC to accommodate the LHR flight. Is it possible for an A330 to do this mission?

[Arianespace]

Let this be the answer to your question.



Make that as you will.

[seven13]

PR seems like is testing waters at CRK? It’ll start a seasonal service to HKG 3x a week starting mid December to mid January. Hoping it could grow CRK further and CEB as well.

[Arianespace]

It turns out, CPA permit delayed for two days. To think CX application was there earlier than PR. JFK-HKG also direct now.

Here is the news for that,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-30/cathay-pacific-to-restore-some-flights-using-russian-airspace

[Evodesire]

Arianespace wrote

Let this be the answer to your question.



Make that as you will.

Sorry but whats the 3rd and 4th column. It says PAL and the other one is BA.

[Arianespace]

BA is using PR slot at LHR until end of winter 2022 season.

[XWB_flyer]

 
Unlikely it will be able to fly direct between MNL-LHR However if PAL has access to 5th Freedom flights either somewhere in the Middle East or India then yes at full pax 309. Although the market maybe saturated already for UK to India flights and no guarantee India will grant PAL 5th freedom flights between India and UK. Alternatively refueling stop could be BKK though with a reduced payload.

[Arianespace]

A tech stop at BKK is actually doable for flight to LHR on A330. If their A333 can do ICN-LAX, with more reason it can do LHR-BKK

ICN-LAX =5,209nm
LHR-BKK=5,177nm
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lhr-bkk%0D%0Aicn-lax&R=7000nm%40mnl%0D%0A8000nm%40mnl&MS=wls&DU=nm

[XWB_flyer]

So its possible to used the A330-300 tri-class between MNL and LHR with stopover at LHR which could be useful in the short term if PAL decided to revived the route next year! Although in the medium to long term will require a dedicated aircraft which can fly the route direct unless demand on the 5th Freedom flight is strong? Granted PAL will still need approval from either the UK or Thai Aviation Authority although it could be already included in the ASEAN and EU Agreement?

[Arianespace]

Tech stop doesn't need 5th Freedom. But having those handy would certainly add up revenue. We already have 5th freedom rights at BKK. But that is not the problem PAL would be having when it does fly the A330. Its enticing UK nationals to fly them to BKK that is the problem. The fare matrix there is already very competitive. A few BKK bound passengers would not make a difference.

In the same manner that PR flight to LAX via ICN does not make difference even if it takes 5th freedom traffic on the A330.

[frequentflier]

It looks like PAL is deploying the A330 again to LAX. 2 77Ws (74 and 79) flew to XMN, and are still not back in service. Heavy maintenance?

[Evodesire]

Are they deploying the tri-class or the ME configured ones?

[AnonBoy]

Evodesire wrote

Are they deploying the tri-class or the ME configured ones?

They always use the tri-class configured ones on those 112/113 techstop flights.

[XWB_flyer]

Any updates on PAL plans to reconfigured a pair of its A333 to 359? It seem to have gone quite for sometime and no award from OEM for the supply of equipment have been published yet although I'm not totally discounting it. Speaking of A333 are there still NTU A330-300 available for PAL to take? I believe it will be cheaper then either the A330neo or NTU A350s!

[XWB_flyer]

I wonder how much of that income will go to share holders pockets? And will there be enough to spend on improving there on board product and possibly fleet renewal

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/pal-parent-posts-q3-profits-as-passenger-revenue-triples-/150956.article?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=Sendible&utm_campaign=RSS&fbclid=IwAR3-K_qjpAlvKzF71vdCgX6RLYZH7DsxpZUfWtB75e22ppjurcaD4ilOrr8

Personally PAL could foucs on the smaller detail before investing more substantial funds for bigger project Cabin Refurbishment or Fleet Renewal, etc,  and foucs on onboard food and drinks, refreshing seats and adding amenities such as streaming inflight entertainment and USB power port on there younger aircraft which could be dedicated for domestic flights in the near future.

[Arianespace]

None. Most of the income will go to trust fund for new aircraft acquisitions. The rest would go to product upgrades, whatever that is.

[XWB_flyer]

That is good to know as for Product Upgraded could be a broad term like Lounge Updated, New seats onboard, improving inflight meals (which there working on) and inflight entertainment and connectivity to the internet. All I can say its not one both a number of investment hopefully this will continue through next year, although remember nothing is set in stone!

[frequentflier]

It looks like 9/10 77Ws are flying. We’re just missing 7781 to complete the casting :p

[chowpau]

RP-C7779 being towed for reposition to T1 from gate 38 last November 27

[AnonBoy]

frequentflier wrote

It looks like 9/10 77Ws are flying. We’re just missing 7781 to complete the casting :p

I dont think 7781 will be returning as it looks like it's no longer listed under PR. Wonder where it went or what happened to it though. And in other news, 7774 (or 5?) i heard will be grounded for a bit too. IFE issues, and/or temporary removal.