Airlines In The Philippines II

[Evodesire]

I hope ANA gets it, effectively increasing its share. Or maybe a major aircraft lessor.

[JNC03]

Seems like Rolls Royce is not getting generous about their offers for engines due to a more profit-focused CEO.

I think it will affect future orders from Philippine carriers specifically engine options for the upcoming order of PAL for the A330 replacement


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rolls-ditched-thai-engine-supplier-085326117.html?

[JNC03]

Manila remains under evaluation for Lufthansa's future destinations in Southeast Asia, an airline official said in a recent forum.

Lufthansa Group-Thailand General Manager Anlee Do says "the reason why it's not happening now is that we don't have the right aircraft yet."

The 5-star carrier last flew to Manila from Frankfurt in 2008 for commercial reasons.

[Arianespace]

This is actually old news way back 2018 when Germany was 3rd largest EU traffic to PH, next to UK and FR. Traffic has been in decline after covid and UKR war. If you also remember, this was the same route planned by PAL for its A359, with FRA, CDG, and FCO in addition to LHR rotations. Guess what, supposed to be code-shared with LH. Now, LHR is gone and the 4 359s is with them. That 3rd spot too belong to TUR now, and TK flies twice daily to Europe.  

[JNC03]

[xzibit31]

Will they RON in DVO?

[Arianespace]

Most probably part of certification process, just like Singapore did before Scoot ordered the plane. If it is doing Certification here like Airbus A35k did, then PH carrier must be interested in flying this bird here. The A359 Cert. did not go long before PAL ordered the plane, and so does the A35K.

I really like the 195-E2 plane at 2-2 config, better than the A22 at 3-2. It just did the unthinkable, flying AKL-DRW in excess of 2,700nm when its published range was at 200nm shorter a few days back. It is really a good aircraft for PH carriers seated between the ATR/DHC and the A320s. Which means it can fly regional on very thin routes.

Heard from regulators ear that an airline is interested to acquire 12 of these birds.

Could this be part of the GAP plane in the future? Abangan...

[JNC03]

Will it land in manila too?

[Evodesire]

Speaking of the 4 A359s now with LH, are they still set to return to PR by 2025 or 2026?

[JNC03]

I guess just a short tech stop and refuel

[xzibit31]

It flew from DVO to TSN.

5 hours and 38 minutes

Thats a long one..

[Arianespace]

You should see how they fly from AKL to DRW. A whopping 7 plus hours. But I think its range when loaded is between 5-6 hours (2,000nm), basically covers all regional routes in Asia Pacific. The flight just demonstrated that.

American just ordered 133 frames of this bird, halting A220 in its runaway track.

[xzibit31]

TR will be getting some 195E2's this March. Hoping to see it fly to DVO one of these days.  But since the 321 Neos that they fly here are almost always full, i doubt if they will use it on a regular basis in DVO.

[JNC03]

Some PAL employees are in the US for a series of meetings with partners based in the country

I saw a picture meeting with P&W

[xzibit31]

Got this message.
Looks like there is an plane crash somewhere in Davao.

Did anybody hear or any news regarding this one?

[Evodesire]

Maybe someone can answer my question.

Ethiopia is one of the world's poorest countries. Its main airport is just like Cebu and Clark. Its not much of a tourist destination too. And here you see Ethiopian Airlines expanding its fleet by a multitude. They have 20 A359s with 11 more on order, 4 A35Ks on order, 8 779X on order, 29 787s with 11 more on order, 77Ws, 77Ls, and a lot of Boeing narrowbodies.

While PAL's plane orders and expansion seems to conservative, often like playing too much on the safe side again. And here comes Cebu Pacific capitalizing on the Philippines' forecasted travel growth by potentially ordering 100 planes.

It's like PAL just ordered A35Ks to replace the 777s but aside from that, it seems like they are just sitting on their laurels while other airlines aggressively expand. And I did see the chart who the biggest airline is in the country and Cebu Pacific did beat the PAL group. Funny how a low cost airline beat a legacy airline. I don't know if the same goes for Malaysia with Malaysian Airlines and AirAsia.

So if Ethiopia is able to push with such expansion and explore other markets, why can't PAL do the same by moving out of just targeting the Filipino and OFW markets? How about those traveling from Australia to Asia, Asia to the US, and Australia to Europe?

[JNC03]

United expands its presence in the Philippines with new year-round, non-stop service from Tokyo-Narita, starting July 31. United will be the only U.S. carrier to fly to Cebu with daily flights on 737-800 aircraft, which will have convenient connections from United's flights from San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver, Newark-New York, and Houston to Tokyo-Narita.

United is the only U.S. carrier to offer transpacific service to the Philippines with its daily flights between San Francisco and Manila, and also flies to Manila from Guam and Palau.


https://www.united.com/en/aw/newsroom/announcements/cision-125323

[N751PR]

Talk about unexpected! The return of UA doing intra-Asia from NRT AND it's to CEB?!

Back when NW was around I was always hoping to see NRT-CEB. Now a 1K, I can't wait to try this flight!

[Arianespace]

The original UA filing in CAB was SFO-MNL via NRT since 2016. Always denied. They were told time and again to fly direct. It took them 7 years  and little DOT prodding to comply. Another US airline is in the same bind. Would they rather fly CEB too?

[Solblanc]

Evodesire wrote

Maybe someone can answer my question.

Ethiopia is one of the world's poorest countries. Its main airport is just like Cebu and Clark. Its not much of a tourist destination too. And here you see Ethiopian Airlines expanding its fleet by a multitude. They have 20 A359s with 11 more on order, 4 A35Ks on order, 8 779X on order, 29 787s with 11 more on order, 77Ws, 77Ls, and a lot of Boeing narrowbodies.

While PAL's plane orders and expansion seems to conservative, often like playing too much on the safe side again. And here comes Cebu Pacific capitalizing on the Philippines' forecasted travel growth by potentially ordering 100 planes.

It's like PAL just ordered A35Ks to replace the 777s but aside from that, it seems like they are just sitting on their laurels while other airlines aggressively expand. And I did see the chart who the biggest airline is in the country and Cebu Pacific did beat the PAL group. Funny how a low cost airline beat a legacy airline. I don't know if the same goes for Malaysia with Malaysian Airlines and AirAsia.

So if Ethiopia is able to push with such expansion and explore other markets, why can't PAL do the same by moving out of just targeting the Filipino and OFW markets? How about those traveling from Australia to Asia, Asia to the US, and Australia to Europe?

Ethiopia is a fast-growing economy with a larger population than ours. You could also say the same about most of Africa. The continent is booming, but at the same time, it’s suffering infrastructure bottlenecks.

Addis Ababa is the headquarters of the African Union, so there’s a commercial case for at least some flights to Addis from every other African country.

The difference between Ethiopian and PAL is that Ethiopian has no large competitor in its backyard. European Airlines and the ME3 simply don’t have the same reach into Africa as Ethiopian does. SAA and Kenya airways don’t come close to Ethiopian’s network.

As Ethiopia’s neighbors get wealthier, perhaps they’ll get more competition. Compare that to PAL. The only value-added of PAL is its domestic network. Other than that, the Filipino traveller has so many other choices. SQ/TG/CX/MH/KE/CI/BR/JL/NH is there, and that’s just some of what’s present within the region. That’s not counting the ME3+TK and now UA which is starting to compete in PAL’s backyard even in CEB. So of course it pays to be more conservative when there’s so much capacity in the region.