Airlines In The Philippines II

[XWB_flyer]

Arianespace wrote

JNC03 wrote

Boeing's new higher gross weight 787s will add 310nm of range to the 787-9, and 430nm to the 787-10.

https://theaircurrent.com/feed/dispatches/boeing-details-787igw-performance-improvements/

I think the new HGW of the B789 (6000kg) +6t MTOW from 55t, made PAL reconsider its choice, as it clearly blow the A339 competition away from the 52t-55t comparison to 52t-61t MTOW difference. That weight difference translate to additional 750-800nm to its advertised range of 7,500nm, or additional 2 hours of flying time, which more than satisfy its needs for a 6,500nm plane that carries 47tons across the pacific.

Note, the next big plane, the a359 is the 78t variant. 61t-78t MTOW spells a lot of difference.

With the increase gross weight (IGW) of the Boeing 787-9 make it possible to go all the way to the East Coast of the US? Or will PAL limit the B789 to only transpacific flights to either MNL or CEB potentially?

[Arianespace]

6,500nm is transpacific. So basically, west coast. Although, the plane itself is capable to go east but not in the payload they were design to be procured. The A359 will still be the default plane heading east coast.

[frequentflier]

Based

Arianespace wrote

6,500nm is transpacific. So basically, west coast. Although, the plane itself is capable to go east but not in the payload they were design to be procured. The A359 will still be the default plane heading east coast.

Based on the image, it can reach LHR or any potential destination in Europe. This can help open up destinations with low passenger volumes.

Btw, what happened to the slots or PR in LHR? Are they still leasing it, or was it given to other airlines?

[chowpau]

JNC03 wrote

Boeing's new higher gross weight 787s will add 310nm of range to the 787-9, and 430nm to the 787-10.

https://theaircurrent.com/feed/dispatches/boeing-details-787igw-performance-improvements/

PAL's investor ANA wants to order more 787 to boost its medium haul fleet

https://airwaysmag.com/production-error-boeing-787/?fbclid=IwAR3He_fjKxKCoVp1jvMMQ0JazGmNUAgd-IxvR7MCpiSBN1hGwR2wtDSAgIs

[JNC03]

It will just slow down the delivery of 90 units, while they are inspecting those planes they can still build aircraft like what happened to the 737max that's why there are a lot of them parked before on Boeing's plant in US

[Arianespace]

frequentflier wrote

Based on the image, it can reach LHR or any potential destination in Europe. This can help open up destinations with low passenger volumes.

Btw, what happened to the slots or PR in LHR? Are they still leasing it, or was it given to other airlines?

I think that is the airline's grand design of things.

PR slot with LHR is still with BA on slot swap.

[JNC03]

They can launch new routes with stops in Europe before going back to Manila using A359 or 789

[XWB_flyer]

Arianespace wrote

6,500nm is transpacific. So basically, west coast. Although, the plane itself is capable to go east but not in the payload they were design to be procured. The A359 will still be the default plane heading east coast.

Looking at the ranged it can cover the B789 covers West Coast of the US and Western Europe. I do agree A359 is best for the East Coast of the US which could be supplemented by the A35K HGW

[XWB_flyer]

Looking at PAL Mainline future fleet the A321neo will likely become the smallest aircraft followed by the A330-300 and what will eventually succeed it either the A330neo or B787 Dreamliner Potentially even both with the former being in a high density  configuration for domestic and middle east route while the latter will be either a two class or three class configuration for transpacific flights. The A350 (both A359 and A35K), will mainly be used for transpacific flights to the US and Canada with occasional used in regional flights to keep their utilization high.

For GAP with word of an A320ceo Replacement, I won't be surprised if they choose the A320neo as 1:1 Replacement in an All-economy configuration with a slightly higher capacity 186-188 seats I also expect them to receive the A321neo in the future likely with a different ACF configuration to PAL and more similar to either Cebu Pacific or AiAsia Configuration, although final seating configuration will be TBD as its unclear if they will have J cabin or go for an All-economy layout? Lastly the DHC8-Q400 will likely remain for the forceable future until larger Electric Aircraft become available with a higher capacity 90-100 seats.

[JNC03]

When someone confirmed that Stan or other PAL execs will be present at Paris Air Show, then something will happen there.

A lot of airlines will announce their orders from Boeing and Airbus, both manufacturers are winners in terms of orders

[JNC03]

A330neo is not present in Paris Air Show next week

A330MRTT only as per PAS website list of aircraft in display there

[XWB_flyer]

I'm hoping Boeing can sort out their production issues with the B787 Dreamliner with so many orders pending this is probably the biggest downside to thier "best selling" aircraft

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aerotime.aero/articles/boeing-dreamliner-787-deliveries-delayed-due-to-production-flaw/amp

[Evodesire]

Is it already confirmed that Capt. Stan and co. will be present at PAS?

[JNC03]

If PAL ordered the new HGW variant of the Boeing 787-9, it is not coming anytime soon due to certification and tests which is normal and it will not be affected by the defect on 90 dreamliners in BOE inventory. If PAL will lease or get ANA 789s it is not affected by the issue because they are built already.

[JNC03]

Terrible marketing team🤣

[Darkknight85]

JNC03 wrote

Terrible marketing team🤣

What? VT-JFP is a B738. Hahaha

[Evodesire]

Even people within PAL themselves says that they have the worse marketing team. Tawag nga nila "mga nagpapa sweldo lang".

[XWB_flyer]

Looking at PAL planned deployment for the B787-9 transpacific flights to the West Coast of the US. I don't think their considering the IGW (Increased Gross Weight), varaint of the Dreamliner. Which may delay their EIS to pass Mid-2020 to late-2020.

[Arianespace]

PAL never said delivery by 2025. What Stan admitted was between 3-4 years, which is consistent with their delivery plans, earlier mistaken for the long haul wide body orders. The earliest schedule set was 2026 to run until 2028, assuming orders are made this year. We were discussing these schedules before in the thread.

[Solblanc]

At the same time, Stanley also complained that they don’t have enough aircraft right now at present. So they’ll just live with their hobbled capacity for another few years? One would think that they’d at the very least come up with stopgap solutions.