Manila International Airport

[seven13]

New terminal building, would it be extension of T2 to the PVH? Parking building at last and walkalators to connect the three terminals!

[Arianespace]

SMC is proposing this as new Terminal 4 or 5, while MIAA would like it T2 extension. Lets see what they would come up with come September.

[xzibit31]

Hmmm... Where will he put this? Will he connect all terminals to realize this???

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Probably in the abandoned Manila Hotel

[Arianespace]

https://youtu.be/H3TrflTycGk?t=132

Making sense to RSA statement:
The new terminal will have 20mppa instead of the 35mppa. 35 mppa capacity refer to new terminal, t2 and t3 additional capacity, consistent with 65 mppa max. Capacity is also consistent with maximum 48 aircraft movement per hour. The 10 additional mppa was already achieved by MIAAs terminal improvements of T2 and T3 allowing them to service 45mppa now.

Boarding bridges and remotes for new terminal is 15-20 not 50

[Arianespace]

Arianespace wrote

idp5601 wrote

Does anyone know who the hell RLW Aviation Developments and RMM Asian Logistics are? Trying to look them up online and pretty much all the results are just about the NAIA bid. Are they actual companies or dummy firms made to get around ownership restrictions?

Raymond Miller Moreno (RMM)
Robert Lee Wong (RLW)

This might help you
https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/inside-track/something-fishy-san-miguel-consortium-naia-bidding-rehabilitation/

Nominee corporations are not necessarily dummy. Multinational Financiers hide in Nominee through Trust agreements. That's why I call it foreign because financiers usually are funding the project, so the beneficial owners of it and not the Filipino whose name it was registered.

The bottom line that will be considered by BAC is the credit line banks would give to these corporations. Mind you, nominees have a billion credit line more than their capitalization. And nominee corporation work that way. Basically to conceal their identity from their competitors. A dummy corporation doesn't have that same financial muscle for its credit line as they are dependent of the holding company. If SMC holds them, they would have the same bank credit line. Nominee meanwhile has a different bank.

So lets wait for DOTr to verify their credit line. Its either they have or doesn't have that money.

Turns out,  one of these corporations are nominees for no other than Incheon International Airport Corporation (IIAC). And they are not shy about it. A shell within a shell within a shell. Welcome the "New NAIA Infra Corp (NNIC)". San Miguel will hold a 33% stake, while RLW and RMM will own 30% and 27%, respectively, While Incheon International will have a 10% stake.

Under the contract, IIAC holds a 10 percent stake in NNIC, will also take charge of the airport's overall operations throughout the project. In reality though, its more than 40%. Genius.


RLW CEO Robert Wong, San Miguel Chairman Ramon Ang, IIAC Chief Executive Lee Hag-jae, RMM CEO Raymond Moreno

If you still don't get it, try picturing SMC running PAL despite LT owning the majority share.

[Arianespace]

Airside at Terminal III International is really a traffic jam nowadays with managers from Singapore based airlines complaining about their gates being occupied by 5J domestic. This has become a daily occurrence now. Observed it myself. 3 planes are in the taxiway waiting to dock for as long as 1 hour and 30 minutes. You could be in Davao at that time. And yet we are still praying for 15 million more.

[Arianespace]

Kingdom of Terminal III is real.

MIAA’s GM Ines gets irked after airport in-house media were denied access to NAIA 3 parking lot

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Eric Ines has directed free access to members of the in-house media covering the airport beat and warned that he would relieve those who will go against his order, as he announced that he would meet with the airport security personnel on the matter.

An irked GM Ines said this, after learning that members of the Airport Press Club (APC) were halted from entering the parking area at the NAIA Terminal 3 by the security guards who said that there are no more parking slots left for them to use. The media members were there for a coverage, on the invitation of Cebu Pacific.
https://journal.com.ph/miaas-gm-ines-gets-irked-after-airport-in-house-media-were-denied-access-to-naia-3-parking-lot/

Perhaps the price to pay for relieving someone who actually does his job.

[Arianespace]

And more to the kingdom,

[JNC03]

SMC said Tuesday it would use the proceeds of a P20-billion bond offer to support its airport development projects, including the P171-billion modernization of the country's main international gateway.

In a disclosure, SMC said it had filed an amended registration statement and preliminary offer supplement for its planned issuance of fixed-rate bonds with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The fundraising involves a base offer of P15 billion and an oversubscription option of up to P5 billion, to be taken from the remainder of SMC's P50-billion peso-denominated shelf-registered bonds.
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Based on an offer supplement dated April 22, SMC expects to raise approximately P19.7 billion from the issuance, assuming full exercise of the oversubscription option.

Proceeds will be used for the rehabilitation and upgrade of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) and construction of a new airport in Bulacan, as well as the redemption and repayment of the company's Series I and F bonds, respectively.


https://www.manilatimes.net/2024/04/24/business/corporate-news/san-miguel-bond-offer-to-fund-airport-projects/1943028

[Arianespace]

If the bond issuance is oversubscribed it means the payout is good. In simpler terms, credit worthy. You can bet your life on it that you gonna be paid. In much simplest terms, SMC doesn't have issues about money.

[JNC03]

Optimization of NAIA air traffic

NNIC, the special purpose company formed by the SMC-led consortium plans to install various systems that include:

An electronic flight strips system which is part of the modernization of the communication, navigation and surveillance systems for air traffic management; an automated weather observation system; an advanced surface movement and ground control system and an automated terminal information.

Activate the long-inoperable aircraft visual guidance docking system that is very useful at night and during red lightning storms, enabling automated docking of aircraft to their assigned gates without need for marshals who are exposed to risks of extreme heat or bad weather..

Integrate in a new single digital remote apron tower facility to be built near Terminal 3 the current apron control operation of the four terminals. One of the existing control towers, however, would be retained as a backup control tower. Itwould be incorporated into the existing air traffic management system to optimize high-intensity single runway operations, enabling air traffic controllers to efficiently sequence landings that would allow aircraft take-offs to be interwoven with landings.

An arrival manager would be complemented with the installation of an advanced surface movement and ground control system at all control towers that would considerably improve management of ground vehicle and aircraft movement


Renovation, integration of terminals
As for the passenger terminals, NNIC’s plans include the expansion of two of the four terminals, specifically Terminals 2 and 3 while Terminal 1 would be rehabilitated and Terminal 4 would be repurposed as a warehouse and administration offices.

The expansion of Terminal 2 would involve extending the north wing of the terminal toward the former Nayong Pilipino cultural park and the shuttered Philippine Village Hotel that the GSIS has allowed to be demolished.

There are also plans to put up an airport express hotel near Terminal 2 and the construction of a new access road. The south wing of Terminal 2 would likewise be extended toward Terminal 1 after the international cargo complex and the fuel farm are relocated.

Plans for the Terminal 3 north concourse expansion would bump up the passenger capacity from the current 14 million to 25 million. More importantly, the expanded Terminal 3 is intended to provide access to the future Metro Manila subway that will be built at the current parking lot in front of the terminal.

The expansion of the three terminals would also involve the repair and replacement of the passenger boarding bridges, upgrade or replacement of the baggage handling system, improvement of inter-terminal passenger and baggage transfer, construction of new surface access and airside roads, as well as improvement of passenger pick-up and drop-off flow and improvement of the existing automated terminal information system and vital communication systems.

Vehicle parking outside of Terminals 1 and 3 would also be addressed, doubling the number of parking slots to 12,400. A multi-level car park will also be built at Terminal 1 while a new five-level car park will be added to the existing car park.

As for aircraft parking, the NNIC also plans to designate a new remote apron for general aviation that would increase aircraft parking to 104 bays from the existing 61



https://qa.philstar.com/business/2024/05/20/2356361/future-naia

[Arianespace]

I was saying this in March

seven13 wrote

New terminal building, would it be extension of T2 to the PVH? Parking building at last and walkalators to connect the three terminals!

Arianespace wrote

SMC is proposing this as new Terminal 4 or 5, while MIAA would like it T2 extension. Lets see what they would come up with come September.

Who do you think was followed?

JNC03 wrote

https://qa.philstar.com/business/2024/05/20/2356361/future-naia
SMC-led consortium plans to install various systems that include:

An electronic flight strips system which is part of the modernization of the communication, navigation and surveillance systems for air traffic management; an automated weather observation system; an advanced surface movement and ground control system and an automated terminal information.

Activate the long-inoperable aircraft visual guidance docking system that is very useful at night and during red lightning storms, enabling automated docking of aircraft to their assigned gates without need for marshals who are exposed to risks of extreme heat or bad weather..

Integrate in a new single digital remote apron tower facility to be built near Terminal 3 the current apron control operation of the four terminals. One of the existing control towers, however, would be retained as a backup control tower. Itwould be incorporated into the existing air traffic management system to optimize high-intensity single runway operations, enabling air traffic controllers to efficiently sequence landings that would allow aircraft take-offs to be interwoven with landings.

An arrival manager would be complemented with the installation of an advanced surface movement and ground control system at all control towers that would considerably improve management of ground vehicle and aircraft movement

These are cost reduction measures design to reduces manpower from the airside. That would be 200 people less from the payroll.

And before everyone forgets, what SMC got is the "operations and maintenance" of NAIA. Not the Air Traffic Control.

JNC03 wrote

Plans for the Terminal 3 north concourse expansion would bump up the passenger capacity from the current 14 million to 25 million.

MIAA already expanded Terminal 3 in 2022 with capacity of 20 million from 14 million passengers, and this early they already have problems adhering to allocated block time slots with arrivals lining up for contact or tact at taxiway N6 and N7. Pilots know that as AIBT or AOBT. SMC should first be able to address that issue if it intends to add 5 Million more as gates are already full with diminishing available slots. That additional pax only comes with equipment upgrades. Neither MIAA nor SMC control slots. The Ozzie does through ACA.

JNC03 wrote

Terminal 4 would be repurposed as a warehouse and administration offices.

So where do you think Cebgo and other turboprop operators terminal be? Terminal 4 accommodates 5 million in 2022

JNC03 wrote

As for aircraft parking, the NNIC also plans to designate a new remote apron for general aviation that would increase aircraft parking to 104 bays from the existing 61

The emphasis basically confirms what they cannot do. Of course that refers to jets and turboprops of the business kind that have most of their offices in Batasan and GSIS.  As to rest of sentence, If MIAA can't remove them good luck to SMC removing their hangar for the new parking bays.

[Arianespace]

And speaking about air traffic, this is what happens yesterday. Hmm, not only yesterday

MANILA (3rd UPDATE) -  Normal flight operations are currently being restored at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport after a software problem caused several flights to be placed on hold or delayed, airport authorities said on Monday.

The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) said the identified problem at the Air Traffic Management Center (ATMC) has been resolved.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/2024/5/20/several-flights-put-on-hold-due-to-problem-with-naia-air-traffic-software-1351

[idp5601]

Probably not in SMC's contract scope, but does anyone know if they have any plans to improve current public transport access to NAIA aside from better integration with the subway? The P2P buses don't nearly come as often as they should, and any other form of public transit to the airport requires a substantial walk just to get from the nearest PUV/PUJ stop to the terminals.

[Arianespace]

The expressway is owned by the government and operated by SMC. Benefits the airport they also won to operate. The subway is government. No SMC in that. P2P are routes provided by government and operated by private operators. Unlike EDSA though buses from the airport to different point in Manila are not subsidize by the government. So don't expect a more frequent schedules on those places.

By the way, there is free shuttle service between T1,T2, T3, and T4. If you know where to look. They are not very frequent so if you are in a hurry grab an airport taxi to the other side. It will only take you 15 minutes.

If you want the cheapest fare to the metro, T1, T2 and T3 has bus stops that cost 15 pesos. You just need to walk. Just like in other big airports around the globe. I should know. I've been to many of them and public transport is the cheapest going A to B.  

[idp5601]

My bad, phrased that incorrectly. The question I wanted to ask is if SMC has any plans of improving the public transport terminals/stops/facilities in NAIA. There are barely any directional signages in the arrivals area that point you to transit stops (outside of the transfer bus), and if you're not riding the P2P bus the jeep stops require you to walk outside of the airport area. Long walks are fine, but the added difficulty of lack of proper wayfinding makes it a less pleasurable experience than in other airports in the region.

On another note, I doubt if it's likely but I hope that the government pays more attention to improving transit options to and from NAIA outside of the Subway (not necessarily a subsidy but that would be nice too). I just find it disappointing how MNL can barely sustain P2P routes that go into central parts of NCR yet Mactan is served by buses that go to the city and run 2-3 times an hour with zero government support. Personally feel like a lot of it can be summed inadequate information dissemination. When I told people that you could ride a bus from Cubao that takes you to the airport more than half of them were unaware that the option existed at all.

[Arianespace]

No worries. Your observation is true. There is a word for that."Turf". MIAA jurisdiction extends only to the parking area, and that is where you see the airport taxi and the P2P bus that pays the airport authority. Jeepneys and local buses are not permitted to enter airport premises because they dont pay parking fees. So they ply the main road which has the bus stop which belongs to the MMDA. See, different offices.

In fairness to MIAA, there are signs directing you to where the bus stops are. Like for example at terminal 3, the bus stop is on the other side of the road where the pedestrian crossing is. Its between bay 4 and 5, or arrival exit gate 3. I even saw backbackers doing the exit to the other side of the road, guided only by signs. But you have to walk further if you have legs to do that.

There is also another one at Terminal 2 below the departure entry ramp that has pedestrian crossing, near the exit gate of MIAA office, and another one at Terminal 1 where you can see a pedestrian crossing. Its there. This one.

Your longest time on this bus stop is 5 minutes going to Baclaran and Fairview via Edsa towards Makati and yes Cubao. You can find connections to anywhere in the Metro along the bus route. Longer wait at night time but this is 24 hours service.

[Arianespace]

Speaking about public transport to the airport, here is one example of EDSA bus going to T1,T2,T3, and T4. They are there if you only know where to look

[ewh1]

I hope there's appetite by SMC to create an intermodal station in front of NAIA 3 that can easily connect to the Skyway and offer seamless access to MM Subway. I know  one of their PR "Plans" they released to the media a few years ago, was to transform Pandacan into an logistics hub for transport and food that would help utilize their Skyway but now that they have control of NAIA, I would think it might be in their best interest to make NAIA a hub to connect to all of Luzon and maybe beyond using land & air transport and then, connect it to Runway Manila so you don't have to leave outside at all.

Even better if they work with the government and start designing a system for airside/seamless "buslines"  that connect different destinations using buses. obviously PAL or CEB would have to be onboard but it would be a great way to make air travel more accessible and convenient instead of having to do multiple transfers to get to NAIA while offering a sterile transfer or at least, just a bag drop at the intermodal station while having all land and air based connections on one ticket.  I could see this working for a route like BAG that currently can't make air service work and/or Batangas where passengers could easily connect to the islands at the terminal.

A few examples:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/experience/landline.jsp
https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/lufthansa-express-bus
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/routes-and-partners/landline.html#/