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Since Vince take over, there has been recent pauses of earlier decisions, or shall we say U turn? In guise of disenfranchisement. When in truth, its the politicians turboprop that gets affected. Romualdez would not want that.
![]() Hugas kamay. I already know Jim's answer. He told me awhile back. Guess who propose exactly those. He is in this picture. As for Vince? Lets see if he takes advice, or succumb to powerful forces that makes office in Batasan. Remember, they still have to approve his appointment. I did tell you this before. You still didn't see a pattern here?
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The Old Domestic Terminal has been demolished already.
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As I was sayin,
Me thinks, it has something to do with the plane that brought Duterte to the Hague. Guess which company is the common denominator to all these demands?
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Naia operator decides to relocate Terminal 4
This was actually Terminal 2 west extension annex in the original plan floated in 2018, similar to the north extension annex now claimed to be Terminal 5. The tarmac in front is already utilized by PAL and now turboprops operations from T4 operators as described in the previous pages.
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I'm getting mixed reports from the news sources. Are they just gonna convert the cargo building into a new terminal (as one news report suggested), or are they gonna demolish that and build the new Terminal 4/expand Terminal 2 there? If it's the former then it seems very short-sighted since they could just build a proper terminal/expansion there (either of T1 or T2).
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Terminal 1 cannot be expanded or modified because it is a cultural heritage site. We already discussed that in the previous posts.
There is no concrete plan as to how the extension would look like for Terminal 2, as they were all proposal, but they also planned extension on the western side of NAIA 2 with the installation of 1 additional gate at bay 30, while the rest ie bay 17-28 are all remote to be connected by walkway to PAL cargo terminal and all the way to T1. I surmise it would be demolished for airside setbacks and bigger T2 annex. At least that was the plan floated during Tugade's time. It would still be cargo on ground, pre-departure on second floor, and offices on third floor. I'm not sure if this proposed annex would have a gate or separate baggage collection because what makes terminal independent is the separate checked-in and baggage collection system. My guess is that it would still be at T2, as this is annex building only. I'm not sure on the fate of the cargo building behind the fuel depot too and the fuel depot itself, but i think the cargo building would still be demolished leaving the depot behind. Since NNIC takeover, RSA said the depot would be relocated, then that completes the picture. After all, Petron owns that facility. And Petron is under SMC.
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![]() SMC commissioned these plans in 2012; will they continue them? |
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I don't think so. The T2 North and West Annexes is linear as presented in their bid. What is mandatory is that it should be linear as what was presented here. What is not mandatory is how the terminal should look like so what you see here may not be the ones actually constructed. What separates a terminal from annex or extension is the provisions for different pre-departure and arrival facilities. From their bid it still states Terminal 2 expansion. Meaning, one centralize pre-departure and arrivals. That is why it is still called an extension, like extending a house.
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In speaking of T4 it is now demolished and thats where the A319ACJ parked earlier upon arrival from Japan
The stairs are also covered with roof so the persons deplaning cannot be seen by anyone passing by outside |
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To keep Lufthansa in NAIA, DOTr open to flexible leaseIn short, amending the contract with NNIC. A big no-no in government transactions. Are they out of their mind this early? I sure hope not. Should DOtr peeps proceed with this idea, they will end up facing multiple problems and lawsuit similar with what happen to PIATCO, after Erap modified the terms of the contract. It's very clear that LT group, which happen to own LTP, is trying to leverage its hand in this administration, by providing the President plenty of concessions. You know na what they are. Knowing him, I think Vince will resign if this idea is forced upon his throat. Right now he is just playing politics. And so does Jim, his deputy. I know them as honorable people. Saying yes would remove their honor forever. But who knows, there is always a price for saying yes. One great thing about JJB is that he stood his ground against the interest of his previous employer in favor of the government, and he was shown the door. And for that I admired him truly. But of course few people knew that story.
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(Long time reader… first time post)
To avoid modifying the NNIC contract, could the Philippine government give additional incentives to LTP to offset the AO1 rate increases (e.g., tax)? The government received the windfall from NNIC. They should make the investment directly for LTP to remain. |
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Before anyone forgets, the fees are dictated by government. To say that it was SMC idea is being misled. NNIC just implemented it. Now to the question, they could. But that requires acts of Congress. I'm sure they could work out a plan like tax exemption. But that is one tough hill to climb. Because it will then become unfair competition. As it loses the logic of competitive bids. And for that lawsuit follows against the government. Everything will be downhill from there.
Remember too, it took a Duterte Presidency to claim debt payment from PAL incurred since Cory Aquino time. And who owns that airline again?
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Was at Terminal 3's domestic baggage claim area a few days ago and it was really dark! It was around 3:30 pm or 4 pm. Is it normally that dark there? NNIC probably needs to work on that. The difference between NAIA and MCIA T1 feels like night and day.
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https://news.alaskaair.com/mileage-plan/alaska-airlines-welcomes-philippine-airlines/
Another Oneworld partnership after the American Airlines and Qatar Airways codeshare. Does this mean that PR is finally leaning towards Oneworld and is on a path to joining it? |
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Alaska Airlines deal were brought by the merger of Hawaiian to which PAL has existing code-shares. Under US DOT application, Alaska has to respect this agreement, among other things.
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https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/2058846/palace-on-naia-bollards
Heads are gonna roll after the tragedy. |
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NNIC to clear 27 abandoned aircraft at NAIAApparently, this is where NNIC will build the new Cargo Terminal Building. If you noticed, DHL is already there pre-positioning with their A330. As for the aircraft abandoned there, its obligations to NAIA is more than its salvage value so the owners could not easily take them away or sell it for scrap because they will still have to pay MIAA. They rather leave it there and rot. Remember, removing them there also entails cost. Nobody wants to pay for that. So NNIC has no choice but pay for their disposal.
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