Manila International Airport

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

JNC03 wrote

SMC is making PAL nervous🤣

T1 cannot be a 5J terminal specially they have a lot of domestic flights. T2 is the best for 5J while T1 should be PAL exclusive

Haha. They are actually in the right place right now. 5J domestic carried 12.8 million in 2023, about the same size of T3 original capacity. As we all know, T3 is about 18 miliion right now going 20 million.

PAL, Air Asia and Royal are likewise in the best place, as far as we are concerned considering their current number of passengers. T2 is originally 7 million but is now handling 14 million in 2023.

T4 has about 5 million with SRQ getting more than 3 million.

Excess capacity will need to come from the new terminal 2 annex. Source from grapevine reveals it to be for domestic use only with CEB domestic relocated there.

Also financially smart. It costs less to build facilities for domestic LCC ops, plus it’s faster. They probably might even do away with airbridges.

And it won’t cost too much to give T3 a cosmetic makeover to accommodate all non-PAL flights. That should loosen up T1 and enable them to work on transfers.

If they’re thinking ahead, they might want to add a sterile airside bus transfer between T1 and T3 so passengers on interline tickets can easily connect into PAL’s network

[JNC03]

Yes building a new terminal for an LCC will be easier who knows if it will look like the one in Caticlan but it is bigger

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

Yes building a new terminal for an LCC will be easier who knows if it will look like the one in Caticlan but it is bigger

Wow, world class!

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Last Air Con problem before SMC takes over

[airline_builder]

Solblanc wrote

JNC03 wrote

Yes building a new terminal for an LCC will be easier who knows if it will look like the one in Caticlan but it is bigger

Wow, world class!

hahahahahahaha no words to even describe it

[sloanesquare]

scary seeing this and what success looks like

https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/reviews-and-advice/this-new-airport-is-the-gateway-to-thailand-s-emerging-beach-hotspots-20240827-p5k5sr.html

[JNC03]

There are toll booths placed in terminal 1

Signs that SMC's takeover is near which is next week already

[airline_builder]

Next week will be the last week of the MIAA management over NAIA.

Has SMC presented already concrete stages and impressions of the New NAIA that they envision in 5 years' time, apart from the well, diarrhea pronouncements of RSA like it's so easy and chill?

[ewh1]

We'll probably hear more during this:

https://malaya.com.ph/news_business/ejap-smc-to-hold-first-aviation-forum/

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/2024/9/5/journalists-san-miguel-corp-to-hold-first-aviation-forum-1640

[sloanesquare]

toll booths?  do you mean booth at the bottom of the naiaex ramp leading to T1 flyover?

[Solblanc]

ewh1 wrote

We'll probably hear more during this:

https://malaya.com.ph/news_business/ejap-smc-to-hold-first-aviation-forum/

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/2024/9/5/journalists-san-miguel-corp-to-hold-first-aviation-forum-1640

Event just started. Waiting for coverage to come out…

[romantic_guy08]

[JNC03]

Angelito “Lito” Alvarez, general manager of SMC-backed New Manila International Corp., shared updates during the Economic Journalists Association of the Philippines-SMC aviation forum on Monday, ahead of the takeover on Sept. 14 this year.

Alvarez said the consortium, which includes Incheon Airport of South Korea, will build a new passenger terminal to increase capacity.

Near-term plans include transforming Naia terminal 2 into a pure domestic gateway. Terminal 1 will be used by Philippine Airlines and foreign carriers that were assigned to Terminal 1 will be moved to Terminal 3, which will also host Cebu Pacific and AirAsia flights. Alvarez said some Cebu Pacific flights will also be moved to Terminal 2.

Consultants have been tapped to review the assignments, he said. Also under review is the transfer of turboprop operations to Clark International Airport in Pampanga, about an hour and a half north of Manila.

Alvarez said NAIA will expand its capacity from 35 million to 62 million passengers per year.
A new terminal will connect to Terminal 2, and Terminal 3 will link to the Metro Manila Subway.
The baggage handling system will be upgraded, and self-check-in, self-bag drop, and biometric systems will streamline processing.

https://insiderph.com/smc-consortium-reveals-airline-terminal-movements-ahead-of-naia-takeover-on-friday

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

Angelito “Lito” Alvarez, general manager of SMC-backed New Manila International Corp., shared updates during the Economic Journalists Association of the Philippines-SMC aviation forum on Monday, ahead of the takeover on Sept. 14 this year.

Alvarez said the consortium, which includes Incheon Airport of South Korea, will build a new passenger terminal to increase capacity.

Near-term plans include transforming Naia terminal 2 into a pure domestic gateway. Terminal 1 will be used by Philippine Airlines and foreign carriers that were assigned to Terminal 1 will be moved to Terminal 3, which will also host Cebu Pacific and AirAsia flights. Alvarez said some Cebu Pacific flights will also be moved to Terminal 2.

Consultants have been tapped to review the assignments, he said. Also under review is the transfer of turboprop operations to Clark International Airport in Pampanga, about an hour and a half north of Manila.

Alvarez said NAIA will expand its capacity from 35 million to 62 million passengers per year.
A new terminal will connect to Terminal 2, and Terminal 3 will link to the Metro Manila Subway.
The baggage handling system will be upgraded, and self-check-in, self-bag drop, and biometric systems will streamline processing.

https://insiderph.com/smc-consortium-reveals-airline-terminal-movements-ahead-of-naia-takeover-on-friday

None of this is new. And all the terminals are overcapacity as it is; how will they cram 5J flights into T2 without building an expansion? Will they start cramming passengers into buses one hour before boarding like they do in caticlan?

I’ll believe any improvements when I see it. So far, it just looks like SMC will just sit and collect terminal fees.

[Arianespace]

JNC03 wrote

Near-term plans include transforming Naia terminal 2 into a pure domestic gateway. Terminal 1 will be used by Philippine Airlines and foreign carriers that were assigned to Terminal 1 will be moved to Terminal 3, which will also host Cebu Pacific and AirAsia flights. Alvarez said some Cebu Pacific flights will also be moved to Terminal 2.

As was stated in this forum a while back in the thread, the new T2 Annex will become domestic together with T2 with 5J as anchor. No new information disclosed here. T2 is already domestic. While T1 is already PAL. As was told before, T3 will become International.

[sloanesquare]

which engineering company does SMC use

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Can T3 even handle all international airlines? You still have a major portion of the immigration/customs area used for Domestic ops

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

And was there any rendering being shown during the forum today?

[JNC03]

According to NNIC general manager Angelito Alvarez, the group had already engaged with several consultants regarding the reassignment of terminals being used by airlines to improve passenger experience and boost flight efficiency.

“This is something that will surely happen,” he said during the EJAP-SMC Aviation Forum in Makati City.

Under its plan, NNIC said NAIA Terminal 1 will be used by flag carrier Philippine Airlines, while Terminal 2 will be a purely domestic terminal, including those of Cebu Pacific. Terminal 3 will cater to all the foreign airlines currently operating in Terminal 1. Terminal 4, meanwhile, will cater to AirAsia flights that are currently in Terminal 2.

“With regards to the terminal reassignment, the end-state will happen only in about two years once the Terminal 2 extension will be completed,” Alvarez said.

He noted, however, that this would be a gradual process due to the space limitation, with the first phase involving AirAsia moving from Terminal 2 to Terminal 4. The vacated wing will then accommodate Cebu Pacific which will move from Terminal 3. The space left in Terminal 3 will then be occupied by foreign airlines that are operating in Terminal 1.

“It will be a gradual process. That’s the best that we can do at this point in time. As I stated earlier, things can only normalize once this Terminal 2 extension is completed,” Alvarez said.

For their part, officials of carriers such as AirAsia Philippines, Cebu Pacific, and Philippine Airlines said they are open to working with the NNIC on the reassignment.


https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/economy/919827/new-naia-infra-corp-says-terminal-reassignments-will-surely-happen/story/

[JNC03]

I think this is the best way to execute it