Airlines In The Philippines III

[Solblanc]

From consistent tri-class A330s to Wamos. Wamos A332s with less capacity over the peak season where regular economy fares from Australia to Manila can get as high as $2000.

Premium economy is now officially dead as it isn’t consistent on any route.

Sure, they’re cutting costs, but the amount of revenue that they’ve foregone to cut costs…

C’mon 5J, launch an FSC already!

[airline_builder]

https://youtu.be/LKDWpyLBGoY

[JNC03]

EASA has ordered mandatory safety inspections on all Rolls Royce Trent XWB97 engines fitted to A350-1000s worldwide.

Good thing PAL dont have them yet for now

[Evodesire]

Solblanc wrote

From consistent tri-class A330s to Wamos. Wamos A332s with less capacity over the peak season where regular economy fares from Australia to Manila can get as high as $2000.

Premium economy is now officially dead as it isn’t consistent on any route.

Sure, they’re cutting costs, but the amount of revenue that they’ve foregone to cut costs…

C’mon 5J, launch an FSC already!

I agree with you. Time for Cebu Air to really think of opening an FSC subsidiary. What we need is a true flag carrier that all Filipinos can be proud of, and not a mediocre one who thinks that they are immortal.

[seven13]

Arianespace wrote

8765 is indeed AOG. Patigasan pa more...

 
65 already back flying when this was posted and a new ac now is AOG in PVG, 7777

[airline_builder]

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Behramjee Ghadially
Senior Manager Route Network Planning
1m • Edited • 1 minute ago

Malaysia Airlines has officially announced today that it shall be re-launching nonstop service to Paris after a gap of 9 years.

New daily flights shall be operated using its flagship Airbus A350-900s effective 22Mar with an arrival time of 0640 into CDG and departing back at 1125. This schedule enables MH to connect both ways via KUL its core Austral-Asia network conveniently.

In 2023, the p2p demand between Paris and KUL was 72,000 pax round trip paying an average fare of US$ 672 one way with YQ included. Some may ask why did MH choose CDG over other EU cities and the answer to that is threefold i.e.

i. It has the biggest p2p demand of any mainland EU city to KUL (yes even more than AMS/FRA/MXP/ZRH)

ii. MH would have a monopoly on the p2p market segment (very important to generate higher cabin yields especially in business class)

iii. Lastly, the feeder market demand to MH's ASEAN + Aussie network that can be obtained out of CDG is higher than the other Tier 1 EU cities

The top markets that MH should be targeting via KUL are below (I did not include ICN/PEK/PVG/NRT/KIX as it involves too much back tracking hence not worth it):

2023 demand stats below

BKK - 381K
SIN - 223K
DPS - 162K
HKG - 161K
TPE - 135K
SGN - 130K
SYD - 116K
HAN - 103K
MNL - 98K
HKT - 97K
MEL - 87K
CGK - 80K
PNH - 59K
BNE - 42K
AKL - 37K
PER - 28K

With a daily nonstop service being launched on a market segment which sees no direct service, MH should be easily able to stimulate this O&D by +35% in its first year + get a decent amount of feed for domestic Malaysia leisure cities such as Langkawi and Kota Kinabalu and most of all guaranteed high cargo loads in the belly in both directions!

Can this route be making an operating cash profit?
Yes it can but it wont be able to make a "net profit" ! However in turn, it will help contribute positively and increase seat factor on a number of its Asian and Aussie routes.

[Solblanc]

airline_builder wrote

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Behramjee Ghadially
Senior Manager Route Network Planning
1m • Edited • 1 minute ago

Malaysia Airlines has officially announced today that it shall be re-launching nonstop service to Paris after a gap of 9 years.

New daily flights shall be operated using its flagship Airbus A350-900s effective 22Mar with an arrival time of 0640 into CDG and departing back at 1125. This schedule enables MH to connect both ways via KUL its core Austral-Asia network conveniently.

In 2023, the p2p demand between Paris and KUL was 72,000 pax round trip paying an average fare of US$ 672 one way with YQ included. Some may ask why did MH choose CDG over other EU cities and the answer to that is threefold i.e.

i. It has the biggest p2p demand of any mainland EU city to KUL (yes even more than AMS/FRA/MXP/ZRH)

ii. MH would have a monopoly on the p2p market segment (very important to generate higher cabin yields especially in business class)

iii. Lastly, the feeder market demand to MH's ASEAN + Aussie network that can be obtained out of CDG is higher than the other Tier 1 EU cities

The top markets that MH should be targeting via KUL are below (I did not include ICN/PEK/PVG/NRT/KIX as it involves too much back tracking hence not worth it):

2023 demand stats below

BKK - 381K
SIN - 223K
DPS - 162K
HKG - 161K
TPE - 135K
SGN - 130K
SYD - 116K
HAN - 103K
MNL - 98K
HKT - 97K
MEL - 87K
CGK - 80K
PNH - 59K
BNE - 42K
AKL - 37K
PER - 28K

With a daily nonstop service being launched on a market segment which sees no direct service, MH should be easily able to stimulate this O&D by +35% in its first year + get a decent amount of feed for domestic Malaysia leisure cities such as Langkawi and Kota Kinabalu and most of all guaranteed high cargo loads in the belly in both directions!

Can this route be making an operating cash profit?
Yes it can but it wont be able to make a "net profit" ! However in turn, it will help contribute positively and increase seat factor on a number of its Asian and Aussie routes.

Damn. All this shows is that PAL is in a better position than MH, considering that first, they have bigger traffic numbers in MNL, and also, they have good connectivity to HKG and DPS (and maybe less so in SYD/MEL)

Of course, operating out of a slot restricted airport and limited planes, PAL can only do so much. But just shows how much they’ve been conceding to other carriers.

[Evodesire]

I watched an interview of the Captain just recently, I forgot what channel. Net 25 I think? Anyway, while he spoke about the direction of PAL to become a premium carrier and to have a consistent product once again, their actions now are not in congruent with what their vision is.

The longer the BOD holds back those plane orders, as long as the BOD sees new planes as liabilities, and as long as the BOD keeps shrugging-off the actions and recommendations of their executives, PAL's goal to become a premium flag carrier in the Philippines is all but just a pipe dream.

[JNC03]

New flights

[JNC03]

Will PAL have their A321ceo refurbishing here?

HAECO has announce that it has commenced providing heavy maintenance services, including D-Checks, for Philippine Airlines' Airbus A321 aircraft at its Xiamen facility, starting in August 2024. The initial maintenance agreement was first established in 1999, and since then, HAECO has performed over 40 maintenance inputs for the Philippines' flag carrier at its well-equipped hangar based at Xiamen Gaoqi International Airport.


https://avitrader.com/2024/09/09/haeco-to-support-philippine-airlines-a321-maintenance/

[seven13]

JNC03 wrote

Will PAL have their A321ceo refurbishing here?

HAECO has announce that it has commenced providing heavy maintenance services, including D-Checks, for Philippine Airlines' Airbus A321 aircraft at its Xiamen facility, starting in August 2024. The initial maintenance agreement was first established in 1999, and since then, HAECO has performed over 40 maintenance inputs for the Philippines' flag carrier at its well-equipped hangar based at Xiamen Gaoqi International Airport.


https://avitrader.com/2024/09/09/haeco-to-support-philippine-airlines-a321-maintenance/

PR's B777 has HAECO doing its maintenance. Recently 9901 just came back from XMN from maintenance. i am still hoping that they wont delay the cabin refitting, whichever maintenance provider they tap into.

[Arianespace]

JNC03 wrote

Will PAL have their A321ceo refurbishing here?

The deal with Hongkong Aircraft and Engineering refers to the whole 321 fleet. NEO does not need heavy C & D checks. Because its new. The CEO does. Because its old.

The best giveaway clue is perhaps the engines. That is the reason why they are there. Look in the middle



Apparently, Xiamen got plenty of slots than Paranaque can handle. They still have 3 neo AOG on P&W issue but that would be taken cared by the latter.

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

JNC03 wrote

Will PAL have their A321ceo refurbishing here?

The deal with Hongkong Aircraft and Engineering refers to the whole 321 fleet. NEO does not need heavy C & D checks. Because its new. The CEO does. Because its old.

The best giveaway clue is perhaps the engines. That is the reason why they are there. Look in the middle



Apparently, Xiamen got plenty of slots than Paranaque can handle. They still have 3 neo AOG on P&W issue but that would be taken cared by the latter.

HAECO is also pretty good at cabin refurbishment and we can hope sabay-sabay na ang interior refurbishment with the D-check.

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Direct Manila-Paris on December 8 via Air France

Flights will operate 3x weekly TTHS, will operate under evening schedule to give passengers a whole day to explore the country
Flight time will be 14 hours

French Ambassador states NAIA Modernization as a factor on bringing Air France


https://x.com/_katrinadomingo/status/1833397958550950104?t=gRqLT9GbVEMJStucFNNHPQ&s=19

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

PAL looking for Europe and India as alternatives while Air Asia PH will become the first Philippine air carrier to mount flights in Japan's southernmost prefecture, Okinawa by 1Q 2025

https://insiderph.com/ph-carriers-shift-to-new-growth-markets-amid-china-tensions-slowdown

AirAsia PH is also planning for PEN and PNH

[chowpau]

I recall PAL used to fly to Okinawa before using A300

[romantic_guy08]

New route is confirmed. Air France will operate direct nonstop flights with A350-900 from December 7, 2024 as follows

AF208 2330-1930(+1) CDG - MNL A359
AF209 2150-0550(+1) MNL - CDG A359

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

AirAsia PH would be the 2nd then

[Evodesire]

I don't know if its an airline strategy, but I noticed that more Western and Euro airlines are now opening direct routes to Manila. Maybe they are taking advantage of PAL not having enough planes to mount flights to their cities?

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

It is also Government Policy as well. They want airlines to go direct to the Philippines not just connecting via a third destination