Airlines In The Philippines III

[Evodesire]

I got inside word that the delivery of the A35Ks may be pushed back. I don't know how true. But with the way PAL is being managed now, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Evodesire]

JNC03 wrote

If there is a event for those announcements expect it a month from now via Philippine Aviation Summit where PAL is now a partner of the event, last year only 5J partnered with the event.

On that summit 5J announced major things such as their huge order plan wayback last year that materialized this year.

PAL might announce something there that will aslo materialize next year

Most likely the delivery of the 9 A35Ks and 13 A321Ns. As the employees in PAL say, don't just believe anything management says until it is there.

[Solblanc]

Evodesire wrote

JNC03 wrote

If there is a event for those announcements expect it a month from now via Philippine Aviation Summit where PAL is now a partner of the event, last year only 5J partnered with the event.

On that summit 5J announced major things such as their huge order plan wayback last year that materialized this year.

PAL might announce something there that will aslo materialize next year

Most likely the delivery of the 9 A35Ks and 13 A321Ns. As the employees in PAL say, don't just believe anything management says until it is there.

If they haven’t ordered the A35K interiors yet, even the A35K could get delayed. Or worse, they’ll fit it out with a substandard product.

LH is taking delivery of new A350s to their spec. Are they going to keep the PAL A350s? Maybe the BOD sees them coming back so they can stabilize some operations?

[JNC03]

Cathay Pacific said on Tuesday it had inspected its entire Airbus A350 fleet after the in-flight failure of an engine part and found 15 aircraft with components that needed replacement.

If this issue will be widespread, A350 deliveries will be delayed too due to its engines

[JNC03]

Real soon, direct fights between Manila and Paris will commence as the Philippines and France are currently working on it, local officials bared Tuesday.

"Having direct flights to Paris will give comfort to the passengers. We are working on it. We will announce (details of) this in a few weeks," Transportation Secretary Jaime Bautista said at the French Ambassador's residence in Makati City.

Bautista also said he hopes the country's flag carrier, Philippine Airlines (PAL), would mount direct Paris flights. PAL president Stanley Ng, who was also present, kept nodding in response.

But their hopes are now destroyed

Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) Director General Manuel Tamayo, meanwhile, bared to the PNA that France's flag carrier, Air France, already got the approval of CAAP and the Manila International Airport Authority for the mounting of direct Paris flights starting December this year.

"Frequency is three to four times weekly. We (CAAP and MIAA) already approved it, but of course I couldn’t speak on behalf of the Civil Aeronautics Board," Tamayo said.

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1232552

[JNC03]

Stanley Ng knows that they cannot do it so he just nod at the event in front of reporters and some French officials

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

Stanley Ng knows that they cannot do it so he just nod at the event in front of reporters and some French officials

At this rate, can they even start SEA with all their AOG issues?

[fd20]

I thought the reason European carriers stopped flying to Manila was because of poor yields and tough competition from the Middle Eastern carriers. Now we have rumors of Air France returning to Manila. I heard other European carriers are interested in returning as well. What changed?

[Evodesire]

SEA is a go.

About CDG, unless PAL is able to secure more planes soon such as getting back the four A350s from LH, then CDG is a pipe dream. People in PAL feel that the A35Ks may be further delayed. I don't know what the real score of the LH A350s is. Ariane said they will return back to the fleet. Some in PAL say they will never return.

Now my second question is, when will the Tans wake-up to reality and stop living in the past? Another A330 had to return to Manila. Some say its due to a technical issue. Majority here agrees that PAL needs a massive order of planes, but sadly, the only ones who disagree are those sitting in the BOD, particularly the family.

Gokongweis opening a full-service subsidiary is not far from happening if PAL cannot get their acts straight by being a true flag carrier of the country and not just a self-proclaimed national flag carrier.

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Economic growth of the Philippines as well as a rising tourist market. A lot of Filipinos are going to Europe now than before

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Dont forget, RSA possibly launching an Airline based in Bulakan Airport in the near future

[Evodesire]

Yes. And how sure are we that collaboration in NAIA was the only thing they talked about here.

https://bilyonaryo.com/2024/06/28/faster-check-ins-more-flights-seats-cebu-pacific-smc-collaborate-to-elevate-naia-t3-experience/travel/

Knowing how Cebu Air can grab every opportunity out there and if they feel PAL is no longer able to deliver its commitment as a flag carrier, then why not grab the opportunity.

[Arianespace]

JNC03 wrote

"Frequency is three to four times weekly. We (CAAP and MIAA) already approved it, but of course I couldn’t speak on behalf of the Civil Aeronautics Board," Tamayo said.

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1232552

Well, he forgot to tell About Australia...

[Arianespace]

8765 is indeed AOG. Patigasan pa more...

[airline_builder]

any heavy weight word from anyone from the inside on how the BOD are looking at the current turn of events?

[JNC03]

Australia?

Another airline or MNL will be a stopover of AF to Australia?

[Arianespace]

Air Coordination Australia (ACA), the air traffic coordinator for MNL. Air France was asking for slots like United were that is already filled. They are not alone. 12 other carriers, including Air Canada is also wrestling for slots. According to PH gov policy, slot is available for direct flights, not flights with stopovers. So if you stop somewhere in HKG or BKK, you are not eligible for the remaining slots. AFR intends to fly via SGN if I'm not mistaken. Naunahan sila ng Vietnam.

Note on remark of ACA for W24
https://www.airportcoordination.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/MNL-W24-Guidelines.pdf

[seven13]

So AF intends to fly via a third country, not a nonstop service. PR can just codeshare with AF if it materializes.

Aside from AC and AF, would you know the other 10 applicants? Or where can we find the list if applicants?

[Evodesire]

Arianespace wrote

8765 is indeed AOG. Patigasan pa more...

Is this the one that returned to MNL while heading to RUH? Yeps! Patigasan pa! Of course, what the Tans will do is if there are troubles, its the executives that face the public and the media. But when there is good news, they (Tans) will do all to do a grand standing in front of public and media.

[Arianespace]

seven13 wrote

No biggie, Arianespace. Minute details to regular passengers, only avgeeks will be interested down to the last detail 😂

In a few months time, PR cabin crew will be flying Wamos’ A332. A set of PR cabin crew is currently undergoing EASA safety certification to be able to operate the Wamos aircraft. The reason I heard is SYD/MEL CSAT declined. It must be significant triggering PR to go this route. They call it damp lease. First time hearing it.

Flight deck will most likely be operated by Wamos crew.

Arianespace wrote

Or could this be an indication of longer lease terms for Wamos to agree to damp leases? Damps are usually medium term while wets are short ones.

Explains it all.

Philippine Airlines is extending WAMOS service to Australia until February next year. Goes to show where their fleets are at the moment.