Airlines In The Philippines III

[JNC03]

In speaking of E2s

Brazil foreign minister will visit Manila tomorrow, he will have a delegation too is Embraer included🤔

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

Nope, only in Defence, wrt Super Tuscanos

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/2024/8/23/brazil-philippines-sign-3-agreements-during-brazilian-foreign-minister-s-visit-1707

[Arianespace]

Winners and Losers in the Cargo Industry

Cebu Pacific continued to contribute the biggest share with 40.3% or 44.121 million kg, 9.5% higher than the 40.2933 million kg the low-cost carrier handled in the first half of 2023.

PAL Express (PALEx) followed with 41.779 million kg or a share of 38.2%. PALEx also carried 15.5% more than the 36.171 million kg it recorded in the first semester of last year.

AirAsia Philippines placed third with a share of 8.1% or 8.902 million, which was down 13.9% from 13.067 million kg.

Ranking fourth was Philippine Airlines (PAL) with 8.238 million kg or a share of 7.5%. PAL’s first-half cargo traffic was, however, a 47.2% decline from the 15.59 million kg recorded in the same period last year.

Boutique airline AirSwift Transport, Inc. placed fifth accounting for 2.7% of the total or 2.962 million kg, up 39% from 2.129 million kg last year.

Sixth placer charter airline Island Aviation Corp. handled 1.597 million kg, a surge of 168.7% from 594,563 kg in the first half of last year.

Leisure airline Seair International ranked seventh with 1.061 million kg, a 7% drop from 1.142 million kg last year.

In eight place was Cebgo with 825,599 kg, an increase of 4.4% from 791,113 kg.

Lastly, boutique charter airline Sunlight Express Airways handled 7,033 kg, 81.5% down from 37,999 kg last year

[JNC03]

We know what it means

PALEx needs a narrowbody with more cargo capacity

[oninBadz]

That would be Max 9 right or the 8?

[Evodesire]

PALex needs newer and more planes.

[JNC03]

Well that is included

If they have a aircraft with high capacity, it is new and more than what they have now

[seven13]

C7777 is flying again. Luckily they manage to repair it.

[JNC03]

They are utilizing it on some domestic to mid-haul flights before the retirement of the said aircraft

[peterpiloto]

Looks like it made the most out of LAX. It flew PR112/113 on its first revenue flight after the grounding, then 102/103, then 112/113, then 102/103, then 112/113, and finally 102/103 before flying regional/domestic.

[JNC03]

CEB had a plan before to fly their ATR72-500 freighters to HKG and the authorities didn't allowed it

I guess they need some P2Fs in the fleet

[airline_builder]

so, the rumor to temporarily stop operations in DMM is becoming inevitable due to all so old topic here, aircraft shortage of Philippine Airlines

given a new route will be launched transpacific with dwindling or unpredictable aircraft reliability at present

7784 nobody is talking about it

the supposed additional Wamos Air to not disrupt the MidEast flight another topic in the abyss of silence

so tell me......what gives? (Anyone from PAL here?

[Arianespace]

Sad to see the fall of Philippine Airlines from its best showing in 2019 at 30th best airline in the world to its 77 downfall in 2022, to 80 in 2023, to 96 in 2024. The air is really bad up there.

We predicted it well ahead of its time even before the skytrax announcement this year. They would not be there anymore next year as they would go beyond the 100 mark, notwithstanding delivery of the 35k. We hope to see reversal beginning 2026, that is if BOD cares at all.

https://www.worldairlineawards.com/worlds-top-100-airlines-2024/

[Arianespace]

Rumor, yes. Stoppage no. The thing about Saudi Arabia is that only 876x planes are permitted to fly to the Kingdom. And they only have 4 of them. KSA regulatory requirements on product consistency. So they cannot field other aircraft offering other products there when these planes goes AOM. Which is good for passengers. Actually, its the same story in the olden days when a 742 is not permitted to sub for the 342s. While the airline is in dire straits, fleet wise, they still managed to get good loads.

The story about 7784 is that its lease was delayed because of PAL financial woes. Not that they are not earning, but their projections fell short causing them to delay an expense item, which in this case, operating another triple seven.  Which caused them to lose more money. We have a term for that, stupidity paradox.

“Functional Stupidity”  happens when individuals at workplace who are intelligent and with excellent qualifications stop questioning about their work. They become stupid. The same thing you see nowadays with Boeing, always focusing on corporate earnings. Corporate managers only focus on the technical prospect of the job and while doing it they stop thinking on a broader term of the implication or end result of its decision because of the BOD action. These are the type of people who even get promoted for following ill-conceived corporate demands, and not questioning whether its right or not, on fears of corporate backslash. The previous President and COO did a splendid job on Chapter 11. Yet, he was shown the door. If you don't get that I don't know what will.

Fits perfectly well for PAL current culture.

[Solblanc]

There is still a full winter and summer timetable before the first A35K arrives. And that’s only one.

How’s the A321 reconfig going?

Ganito nalang ba forever?

A global recession is looming, and travel demand might slow down with it. So that might temper the need for new planes… but at the same time, PAL has no means of growth at all.

[airline_builder]

Arianespace wrote

Rumor, yes. Stoppage no. The thing about Saudi Arabia is that only 876x planes are permitted to fly to the Kingdom. And they only have 4 of them. KSA regulatory requirements on product consistency. So they cannot field other aircraft offering other products there when these planes goes AOM. Which is good for passengers. Actually, its the same story in the olden days when a 742 is not permitted to sub for the 342s. While the airline is in dire straits, fleet wise, they still managed to get good loads.

The story about 7784 is that its lease was delayed because of PAL financial woes. Not that they are not earning, but their projections fell short causing them to delay an expense item, which in this case, operating another triple seven.  Which caused them to lose more money. We have a term for that, stupidity paradox.

“Functional Stupidity”  happens when individuals at workplace who are intelligent and with excellent qualifications stop questioning about their work. They become stupid. The same thing you see nowadays with Boeing, always focusing on corporate earnings. Corporate managers only focus on the technical prospect of the job and while doing it they stop thinking on a broader term of the implication or end result of its decision because of the BOD action. These are the type of people who even get promoted for following ill-conceived corporate demands, and not questioning whether its right or not, on fears of corporate backslash. The previous President and COO did a splendid job on Chapter 11. Yet, he was shown the door. If you don't get that I don't know what will.

Fits perfectly well for PAL current culture.

Well explained and my thoughts exactly on Functional Stupidity such a damned corporate culture

[Evodesire]

Arianespace wrote

Sad to see the fall of Philippine Airlines from its best showing in 2019 at 30th best airline in the world to its 77 downfall in 2022, to 80 in 2023, to 96 in 2024. The air is really bad up there.

We predicted it well ahead of its time even before the skytrax announcement this year. They would not be there anymore next year as they would go beyond the 100 mark, notwithstanding delivery of the 35k. We hope to see reversal beginning 2026, that is if BOD cares at all.

https://www.worldairlineawards.com/worlds-top-100-airlines-2024/

What I also pointed out before. PAL was at the top of their game in 2019. Awards here, awards there. And they were getting the best feedback. The time when JJB only had to contend with one Tan.

And I am not discounting the possibility that Cebu Air might seize the opportunity to put up a legacy subsidiary to contend with PAL. It's not far from happening.

The PAL crew feels the BOD are just waiting for the old man to go, and thats it for PAL.

[Evodesire]

Arianespace wrote

“Functional Stupidity”  happens when individuals at workplace who are intelligent and with excellent qualifications stop questioning about their work. They become stupid. The same thing you see nowadays with Boeing, always focusing on corporate earnings. Corporate managers only focus on the technical prospect of the job and while doing it they stop thinking on a broader term of the implication or end result of its decision because of the BOD action. These are the type of people who even get promoted for following ill-conceived corporate demands, and not questioning whether its right or not, on fears of corporate backslash. The previous President and COO did a splendid job on Chapter 11. Yet, he was shown the door. If you don't get that I don't know what will.

Fits perfectly well for PAL current culture.

Total opposite of what's happening to 5J.

[Evodesire]

airline_builder wrote

Arianespace wrote

The story about 7784 is that its lease was delayed because of PAL financial woes. Not that they are not earning, but their projections fell short causing them to delay an expense item, which in this case, operating another triple seven.  Which caused them to lose more money. We have a term for that, stupidity paradox.

Well explained and my thoughts exactly on Functional Stupidity such a damned corporate culture

They never learned their lesson.

[romantic_guy08]

Confirmed...

DMM will be axed...