Airlines In The Philippines III

[Arianespace]

The remaining seats for Manila. Basically covers the frequency applied for.

Major refers to SYD, MEL, BNE, & PER market

[Evodesire]

Has the issue between Qantas and Qatar Airways been resolved?

[Arianespace]

The Australian parliament has voted down a motion to resume Senate select committee hearings concerning a decision not to allow Qatar Airways (QR, Doha Hamad International) additional capacity into Sydney Kingsford Smith, Melbourne Tullamarine, Brisbane International, and Perth International airports.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/137767-australian-senate-opts-not-to-restart-qatar-airways-inquiry

Same strategy was employed by Qatar to the Philippines, ie MNL. Our government said no to the 4th. In fact, the morning slot (3rd) is conditional upon them to serve CRK, CEB and DVO. Which they are now doing. In Qatar ASA we have frequency. For Australia, seats, with no regard for aircraft.

Unlike Qatar the Australians are willing to increase seat allocations for the PH to 12,000 seats to major cities next year if allocations are all taken up.

By the way, QF found PR making a killing at PER last year, perhaps explains the price, and yields growing 30% in 1st quarter this year, as compared to China's negative growth. That's a lot.

[PAL 747]

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240514-qfjul24pvg

Qantas ending flights to Shanghai/Pudong. They probably can't compete with the Divisoria fares from China Eastern and its 11x a week service.

[PAL 747]

Once PAL gets more planes, is there a chance they'll resume flights to Darwin & Cairns?

[Evodesire]

I think one huge factor why PAL had to fly to Cairns was because of Auckland. I think they were using A320s and A321s for that route.

[Arianespace]

They already have planes. The problem is they can't fly the plane due to maintenance issues. PAL has 5 planes for OZ operations. Only 3 is flying. The park ones are the LRs which happens to have the PW1000G engines. That is the reason why 77w occasionally fly BNE.

[Evodesire]

Do you have an update of how many PAL and CEB A321Ns are AOG?

[JNC03]

PAL execs is in US for signing of partnership with seafood city and bayani pay

They might also meet with Boeing before the stockholders meeting?🤔

[Solblanc]

seven13 wrote

Has anyone heard PR wet leasing aircraft particularly for SYD/MEL?

Omg it’s actually happening. They’ll announce it soon. Wamos air will temporarily take over for a few months. What’s the game plan? What happened to the regular A330s?

[JNC03]

Philippine Airlines (PAL) is looking to enter into a lease agreement with a European operator to boost its fleet in the heat of supply chain disruptions that are causing delays in aircraft deliveries.

The STAR learned from industry sources that PAL is eyeing a wet lease arrangement with a reputable carrier from Europe to prepare its fleet for the expected demand bump starting July.

The wet lease to be signed with a European airline will also provide PAL the network capacity to serve passengers even as the aviation industry grapples with manufacturing and repair delays.


https://www.philstar.com/business/2024/05/17/2355645/pal-rent-aircraft-european-carrier

[Solblanc]

It’s formally announced.

https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/pal-flies-to-sydney-and-melbourne-on-a-wamosa330

Effectively, that means they’re discontinuing premium economy for the next few months. Sucks for the ones that bought premium economy tickets.

At least people still get 1-2-1 biz.

[Arianespace]

Evodesire wrote

Do you have an update of how many PAL and CEB A321Ns are AOG?

PAL AOGs

To date, PAL has grounded five Airbus A320neos awaiting the maintenance of their jet engines with aviation supplier Pratt & Whitney. In 2023 Pratt & Whitney issued a recall for engines that it made for A320neos, citing a manufacturing defect that has to be fixed.
https://www.philstar.com/business/2024/05/17/2355645/pal-rent-aircraft-european-carrier

Referring to 21n's, that is 2 LR (Oz operations) and 3 regular neo

CEB AOGs

The airline has taken 10 aircraft out of service because of issues with Pratt & Whitney’s PW1100G engines and expects to have 20 grounded by the end of the year. It has supplemented its fleet by taking two A320ceos under a damp lease agreement with Bulgaria Air.
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airports-networks/cebu-pacific-pulling-all-levers-grow-capacity

CEB is adding 10 neo aircraft this year minus 10 AOG= zero + 2 bulgaria 320s -10 more neo AOGs before end of year= -8. They will have 95 aircraft at the end of the year but they won't be using 8 of the neo, which is sad.  

And so from my earlier post at page 1

Arianespace wrote

The single engine option (P&W) was an eye opener in the industry. Arguably you save a lot on a single choice. The opposite holds true when they bogged down. PAL learned that lesson too. CFM saved them. CEB learned it the hard way. APG not so.

[Arianespace]

Well, this is a first after 28 years

PAL is leasing two Airbus A330-200s with a dual-class configuration, to fly to and from Manila, and Sydney and Melbourne for a 5-month period effective June 1, 2024.

Someone on Airliner.net would be proud about this moment.

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

Well, this is a first after 28 years

PAL is leasing two Airbus A330-200s with a dual-class configuration, to fly to and from Manila, and Sydney and Melbourne for a 5-month period effective June 1, 2024.

Someone on Airliner.net would be proud about this moment.

There are some other things to note here other than the fact that the premium economy cabin is gone. This is a significant reduction in capacity.

Also, wet-leasing is not cheap. If it only takes 2 A330s to service SYD and MEL, then is the parts shortage so bad that they can’t keep at least 2 tri-class A333s flying for five months?

This might point PAL towards the direction of acquiring more planes sooner rather than later. Their regional network is really where the money is at, unless they bring the 777s in to SYD. It’s good for cargo, but they have an inferior product. When the A35Ks come in, the 77W can be reconfigured to higher density with a better J product for SYD/MEL and Mideast, and might have some life in them yet while waiting for 787-10s.

[seven13]

PR only has 3 triclass flying 8786, 8780 and 8789. 8781 and 8782 has been reconfigured to a denser ECY cabin, a hybrid bi-class and  tri-class.

2 A332 should suffice, one for each route and MEL isn’t a daily service. SYD is currently at 6, I think.

[Arianespace]

PAL A330s of the 309 seater kind, two of them, the one that flies to OZ and Hawaii, ie 878x, will undergo D checks together with cabin refurbishment that you don't actually wouldn't like because they will become denser by adding 50 more seats. That is from 2-4-2, they would become 3-3-3. Only this time they have IFEs. Yikes

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

PAL A330s of the 309 seater kind, two of them, the one that flies to OZ and Hawaii, ie 878x, will undergo D checks together with cabin refurbishment that you don't actually wouldn't like because they will become denser by adding 50 more seats. That is from 2-4-2, they would become 3-3-3. Only this time they have IFEs. Yikes

Someone explain how they have the budget to reconfigure the A330s a second time and yet they can’t even bring themselves to refurbish a single 77W once

[seven13]

Arianespace wrote

PAL A330s of the 309 seater kind, two of them, the one that flies to OZ and Hawaii, ie 878x, will undergo D checks together with cabin refurbishment that you don't actually wouldn't like because they will become denser by adding 50 more seats. That is from 2-4-2, they would become 3-3-3. Only this time they have IFEs. Yikes

That’s the 4th configuration of the A333. Does PR need that much of capacity? Flying a denser A333 to Hawaii and OZ seems unbearable or at least use a slimmer seats to make additional legroom.

I guess with this move, it’s just a matter of time before the last remaining 878X be reconfigured with +50 seats.

[Arianespace]

A denser ceo couldn't fly HNL. Unlikely they would refurbish the 4 others. And besides, Stan already said the pair would be used for regional flights, excluding OZ and HNL. That needs 4 aircraft rotations. But I could be wrong.