Airlines In The Philippines III

[PAL 747]

https://simpleflying.com/air-canada-sets-sights-12-more-long-haul-destinations/

Interesting read. Manila & Ho Chi Minh City may have the traffic, but I think Africa's going to be a gold mine in yields for Air Canada especially if they launch Lagos, Nigeria. There's almost no competition in terms of non-stop flights (except Air Algerie, Tunisair, Royal Air Maroc, Egyptair, Ethiopian Airlines & AC's Montreal-Casablanca flight) from Canada to West, East & Southern Africa.

One of the reasons United launched SFO-MNL is because United has to deploy their 777s somewhere since US-China flights have yet to achieve pre-COVID levels. They had to be a little "creative" in route planning.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine caused the end of a LOT of overflights through Russian airspace. That's why there aren't any UA flights to China from Chicago, Washington & Newark. While Air China's flights to New York & Washington are only 2-3 times a week (as opposed to daily or double daily (to JFK) before COVID) and make tech stops in LAX or a point in China.

Also, the multiple frequencies to China before COVID resulted in cheaper airfares to Asia. I actually paid $500 R/T for a nonstop ORD-PEK flight on United in early 2018. I used to fly ANA to MNL (and a few days in Tokyo) for less than $1000 in 2018 & 2019.

Airlines are taking advantage of the lack of China-N. America flights which brought down prices.

[JNC03]

There is news about MIAA banning turboprop operations in Manila

Is that a factor in the consideration of some airlines on Embraers and A220 recently?

[Arianespace]

True. The news was broken already in this forum awhile back.

[Arianespace]

PAL overflies the Russian Airspace every time from YYZ and JFK whenever the wind allows them.

Could also be the reason why Delta is reconsidering MNL. The application is not anymore SEA but LAX. This time though they struggle with parking slot at T3. Perhaps with the consolidation of KE with OZ they will have their slot back, but this time they will have to come back again at T1.

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

There is news about MIAA banning turboprop operations in Manila

Is that a factor in the consideration of some airlines on Embraers and A220 recently?

What I find interesting is that the turboprop ban was also linked with the construction of a new terminal in Sangley that can take these turboprops. Of course, this was derailed by the pandemic, but as it stands, Sangley is ready to accommodate commercial flights but there are still no takers. What gives?

[Arianespace]

NAIA traffic has not reach the 2019 level. But it will be this year. Surpassing even. The memo stands. Minor airlines are already using Sangley. It is being used already by general aviation. As a matter of fact its aircraft traffic has gone up considerably. Now, if only the congressmen's plane and helicopter starts moving there.

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

NAIA traffic has not reach the 2019 level. But it will be this year. Surpassing even. The memo stands. Minor airlines are already using Sangley. It is being used already by general aviation. As a matter of fact its aircraft traffic has gone up considerably. Now, if only the congressmen's plane and helicopter starts moving there.

Interesting. Btw, would you happen to know how much of gen av moved to Sangley vs moving to Clark? I know that Clark is much further, but Sangley isn’t easy to get to either. It would be interesting to see the draw of each aérodrome.

[Evodesire]

I guess airlines its because of interconnecting flights. Example, Cebu Pacific and CebGo. Also, PALex flights are all in T2, regardless if international or domestic. Suppose they have to downgrade a flight from Airbus to a DHC, you will really see a bunch of enraged passengers due to confusion. Maybe airlines like AirSwift will do. Sunlight Air is already in CRK except their Cebu flights.

[Arianespace]

Solblanc wrote

Interesting. Btw, would you happen to know how much of gen av moved to Sangley vs moving to Clark?

Nope. But I have stats of gen av operating at the airport in 2022 starting September. Growing exponentially by months. That much doubled in 2023 (no publish data yet) showing they are slowly being eased out of NAIA. Even some of Airswift flight are operating at Sangley according to 2023 data. That's why I said it would have been good for Sunlight to operate there while the two giant turboprop operators are still holding out, but they have equally valid reason to be in CRK.


https://caap.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/AirPassCarAnnual2022-as-of-Feb-2023.pdf?csrt=7630299357021676265

[JNC03]

Cebu Pacific chief Mike Szucs has ruled out venturing into long-haul operations, even as he acknowledges the “best fare growth” seen on these routes in a post-pandemic operating environment.

Speaking during a results briefing on 10 May, Szucs points out that because of under-capacity on some of these routes, which include trans-Pacific flights from the Philippines to North America, yields have gone up, allowing operators like compatriot Philippine Airlines to reap profits.


https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/not-our-dna-cebu-pacific-rules-out-long-haul-foray/158243.article

[JNC03]

Cebu Pacific said Monday it expects to finalize a deal worth more than $12 billion within the second quarter to acquire 100 to 150 narrow-bodied jets, translating into a 9-percent annual increase in seat capacity by 2027.

Cebu Pacific chief finance officer Mark Cezar said the company is in the final stages of coordination with both Airbus and Boeing on the request for proposal for 100 to 150 narrow-bodied jets.

“We expect to announce the results by the second quarter of the year,” Cezar said.

He said the order is expected to result in a 9-percent compounded annual growth rate on seats beginning 2027 when it anticipates initial deliveries to commence.

Cezar said, however, the delivery schedules are still under discussion.


https://manilastandard.net/business/314446482/cebu-pacific-set-to-finalize-12-b-aircraft-deal-in-q2.html

[JNC03]

Qantas has announced a series of changes to its Asia network, including the introduction of a new Brisbane-Manila route starting October 28, 2024. This development marks the airline’s first service between Brisbane and the Philippine capital in over a decade.

The new Brisbane-Manila flights will operate four times a week using Airbus A330 aircraft.


https://www.aviationupdatesph.com/2024/05/qantas-announces-new-brisbane-manila-route-amid-asia-network-adjustments/?utm_content=buffere25bb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

Qantas has announced a series of changes to its Asia network, including the introduction of a new Brisbane-Manila route starting October 28, 2024. This development marks the airline’s first service between Brisbane and the Philippine capital in over a decade.

The new Brisbane-Manila flights will operate four times a week using Airbus A330 aircraft.


https://www.aviationupdatesph.com/2024/05/qantas-announces-new-brisbane-manila-route-amid-asia-network-adjustments/?utm_content=buffere25bb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Just did a cursory look… average fares on MNL-BNE are quite high! Higher than SYD and MEL! No wonder why PAL flies 6x daily

[xzibit31]

Hopefully Qantas can bring the prices down significantly as there is more capacity on this route now.

330 vs 321N

[fr_kingst]

I was in YYZ last Monday, May 13th, and I saw PAL aircraft at the remote parking area. Is this the A350? Why it is parked in YYZ (Toronto Pearson)? Since when?

[JNC03]

The rumor spread more in the last few days

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

The rumor spread more in the last few days

SMC won’t control the slots at NAIA at the very least, right? It would be really disingenuous if the airport operator just started hogging gates for their own airline

[JNC03]

The news is already out since 2017


And now it is coming back again, what changed now is SMC will control both NAIA and NMIA. An advantage for them because they can control everything including the airport not just their airline.

After all if theres a smoke theres a fire

[Arianespace]

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here. While this story is valid almost a decade ago. It no longer holds true now. One word, "ANTITRUST". If you know what that is.  Its both in New Manila and NAIA contract.

[JNC03]

If they will build an airline they are controlling too much things