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seven13
i didnt know that peach mango pie airline occupies 2 levels of parking!
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airline_builder
seven13 wrote
i didnt know that peach mango pie airline occupies 2 levels of parking!
now you know
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xzibit31
Does PR have their own vehicle parking facility for the cabin and flight crew?
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seven13
limited availability inside its premise near t2. airport staff parks af the naia open parking space.
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airline_builder
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xzibit31 wrote
Does PR have their own vehicle parking facility for the cabin and flight crew?
the Pilots, they do at gate 3 andrews ave and for the cabin crew at the inflight center but very limited slots
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Gustavo J Oppenheimer
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Arianespace
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Totally expected. Its in the Terms of Reference. No government bidder would do contract had he not punched numbers.
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JNC03
New Naia Infrastructure Corp. (NNIC) earlier said that airport terminal reassignments will be done gradually and the status quo will prevail until next year.

But it seems that the new operator of NAIA is having a change of heart, thus the changes may happen sooner rather than later.

How soon? Possibly before the end of the year, and just when traffic at NAIA will hit its traditional peak with holiday travelers further clogging the four terminals.

The airlines have been howling in protest, and have appealed to NNIC to perhaps conduct further studies first before pulling the trigger on the reassignments this year.


https://business.inquirer.net/483766/biz-buzz-terminal-reassignments-soon
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Solblanc
JNC03 wrote
New Naia Infrastructure Corp. (NNIC) earlier said that airport terminal reassignments will be done gradually and the status quo will prevail until next year.

But it seems that the new operator of NAIA is having a change of heart, thus the changes may happen sooner rather than later.

How soon? Possibly before the end of the year, and just when traffic at NAIA will hit its traditional peak with holiday travelers further clogging the four terminals.

The airlines have been howling in protest, and have appealed to NNIC to perhaps conduct further studies first before pulling the trigger on the reassignments this year.


https://business.inquirer.net/483766/biz-buzz-terminal-reassignments-soon
Yikes! How on earth will they be able to transfer Cebpac domestic to terminal 2 without building any annex?
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Gustavo J Oppenheimer
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xzibit31
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Solblanc wrote
JNC03 wrote
New Naia Infrastructure Corp. (NNIC) earlier said that airport terminal reassignments will be done gradually and the status quo will prevail until next year.

But it seems that the new operator of NAIA is having a change of heart, thus the changes may happen sooner rather than later.

How soon? Possibly before the end of the year, and just when traffic at NAIA will hit its traditional peak with holiday travelers further clogging the four terminals.

The airlines have been howling in protest, and have appealed to NNIC to perhaps conduct further studies first before pulling the trigger on the reassignments this year.


https://business.inquirer.net/483766/biz-buzz-terminal-reassignments-soon
Yikes! How on earth will they be able to transfer Cebpac domestic to terminal 2 without building any annex?

Only DG flights will be transferred.
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JNC03
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Arianespace
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I was supposed to post some of the information provided by Jarius Bondoc as early as yesterday but due to some commitments was unable to. But here it is, and much much more. Note on the bold one:

NNIC took over NAIA Sept. 14 as private operator. For 15 years NNIC must upgrade facilities and revenues. Government is to get 82 percent or P36 billion a year. Meaning, NNIC must gross P50 billion. MIAA is to remain as regulator. But per contract, NNIC will have the last say in improvements.

NAIA was hot news twice recently. First was when it raised parking fees to P50 for the first two, plus P25 per succeeding hour. Newsfeeds claimed it was unfair to employees, majority of whom don’t drive cars but take shuttles to and from work.

It turned out that the anonymous grumblers were those who took advantage of NAIA’s cheap overnight parking. Like, residents and habitus of nearby condos and casinos. Also “contractors” of airport taxis and limos that should have their own garages.

Real passengers, mostly frequent flyers, accepted the higher rates. Three hours is only $1.40, much less than $5 in Los Angeles, Tokyo, London, Paris, Dubai. By freeing up 1,800 three-hour parking slots, Terminal 3 alone now has 14,400 usable spaces per day.

Second was when NNIC cancelled all special entry passes. All passengers henceforth are to be treated as VIPs. Only VVIPs may secure passes, at higher rates.

Behind the scenes are huge improvements and investments that passengers don’t know of. “But they’ll feel those in terms of comfort and convenience,” Ang beamed:

• Wider roads and more exits to Terminals 1, 2 and 3; directional signs; flood clearing around NAIA complex. Ang had cleaned up Pasig, Tullahan and Tatalon Rivers on his own for P3 billion in three years, making most of Metro Manila flood free. What more the narrower estuaries near NAIA.

• Meralco will set up a power substation exclusively for NAIA. (Adjacent establishments had connected to the old one.) The high-voltage facility can fluctuate only ten times a year at most, no longer thrice daily. Five giant uninterruptible power supplies, each the size of a ten-foot cargo container, will be on standby. Generators will kick in to recharge them. Objective: airport, airline and ancillary services will go on even during city blackouts.

• Lightning dissipators will replace arresters in the open space. A virtual invisible shield above NAIA will prevent frequent, hours-long cessation of tarmac and runway works during thunderstorms. No more deaths from lightning strikes.

• Three taxiways will be paved for swifter runway clearing. Takeoffs and landings will be increased 25 percent, from 38 to 48 per hour. An additional concourse for Terminal 2 will rise from the demolished Philippine Village Hotel.

Airlines will be reassigned: all PAL international and domestic flights, mostly connected, at T1; Cebu Pacific domestic, 52 percent of traffic, to T2; all other international, to T3. T4 will be refurbished for all other domestic runs.

• Within a year an exclusive terminal will be erected for general aviation, with CIQ booths. Perhaps they’ll no longer have to pay $450 to Customs, $300 to Immigration and $300 to Quarantine – P57,750 – per executive jet.

• Better air conditioning, new baggage conveyor belts, more toilets and airbridges. Less souvenir shops and restaurants, with leases same as in shopping malls, so food must cost the same.

Privileged monopolies expectedly will resist changes. One is a cargo handler nearest the terminal ramp. In 2020 a court ordered the closure of a NAIA gate through which competitors pass to get there. This year, on petition of a supposed passenger rights group, another court ordered closure of a second gate.

In both cases the petitioners claimed to own the land where the gates stand. Yet MIAA holds all the titles. Apparently, the monopoly was behind them.

It is to government’s interest that more cargo firms operate at NAIA.
https://www.philstar.com/opinion/2024/10/18/2393338/ang-stakes-name-correcting-naia
And that is not all there is to it, if my bubuwit is to be believed.

According to him, NNIC is renovating T4 to house CEB domestic and to free gates at T3 for foreign carriers. Apparently, foreign carriers pay more than domestic. Airport operator earned more too.

This is consistent with the 1st paragraph.

I think ito na ata yung plan to accommodate BA, AC, DL, LH at iba pang long haulers. The rest daw will be house at T2. Which is also consistent with the article by Bondoc.

Nagreklamo ata ang CEB sa split operations kaya nilagay nalang sila sa isang lugar. T2. Accurate also.

Gusto din ata gamitin ng NNIC yung apron sa harap ng village pero hindi pumayag yung PAL kasi naka contrata yun sa kanila. kaya magulo.

Question is how would you squeeze 14 million to a 9 million terminal? Ang sabi gagawa daw sila ng modular terminal extension to fit the 15 million max.cap temporarily while awaiting construction of T2 extension. A big holding area would be installed at the ground floor of T2, parang Mactan. So baka pwede nga. Malaki din naman talaga ang space sa ground floor.


T2 accommodated 9 million in 2022 with three remotes on the ground floor. That would be 6 soon. Yun nga lang para na kayong sardinas. Since its low cost, passengers don't deserve luxury of an airport. Mahal na nga bayad mo, para pa kayong sardinas sa loob. I think this will have a backslash soon when implemented. Lets see.

Nasagot na rin ni Bondoc bakit hindi maalis alis ang cargo terminal para mailipat sa ibang lugar. That was told to me a long time ago. 10 years to be exact. Hulaan nyo
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Solblanc

To cram that many passengers into T2 is reminiscent of… caticlan.

Has enough land been turned over for SMC to be able to work on the T2 annex? Also, what more can they do to T4? It’s not like they can make it a multilevel structure given its position… or can they?
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JNC03
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Some tenants in the genav area (private jet operators, hangars etc) are leaving in the next few months due to the rent hike of 2.4 million from 800k monthly before SMC's takeover.

However, the usual people (politicians) will remain in the genav area since SMC cannot do anything about or else....
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romantic_guy08
I've been hearing and seeing a lot of missing/lost baggage issues from Cebu Pacific flights departing from NAIA terminal 3... baggage carousel issues apparently..
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Arianespace
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romantic_guy08 wrote
I've been hearing and seeing a lot of missing/lost baggage issues from Cebu Pacific flights departing from NAIA terminal 3... baggage carousel issues apparently..

Baggage handling system glitch hits Naia Terminal 3

 A technical glitch hit the baggage handling system at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) Terminal 3 on Tuesday resulting in baggage retrieval and loading delays.

Read more: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1995521/malfunctioning-baggage-system-result-in-delayed-bags-at-naia-terminal-3#ixzz8pUGXqJgM
I remember the last time I was there at T3 domestic seating at the carousel waiting for my checked bag. They are stopped if not in use. Nowadays, you won't see them stopping according to my bubuwet. I smell overload and he confirmed it. Kaya sunod sunod na. October 18 pa yan.

Well, what do you expect. The carousel is not designed to handle capacity beyond 30 gates. Right now it serves 35 gates, extending to T4 apron.
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seven13
Is it only 5J experiencing lost baggage or even other airlines occupying T3?
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Arianespace
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5J is the only domestic and international operator at T3 that uses the damaged ones. So it was them exclusively, or rather their passengers that were affected.

NNIC Procures New Baggage Handling System

The New NAIA Infrastructure Corp. (NNIC), the private operator of Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), has procured a new baggage handling system to replace the outdated one in use for the past two decades.

“A top priority in these efforts is the replacement of the 20-year-old baggage handling system. NNIC has already procured a new, advanced system, with additional redundancy measures set to be implemented to prevent future disruptions and enhance operational efficiency,” NNIC said on Tuesday.

NNIC added that systematically modernizing the airport's facilities and essential systems in phases is part of its commitment to the government.

This decision followed recent baggage handling challenges faced by travelers at NAIA Terminal 3, which caused significant inconveniences among passengers.

Cebu Pacific (CEB), the budget airline led by the Gokongwei Family, reported that more than 800 passengers were affected by the malfunctioning baggage system as of Tuesday afternoon.

Read more at: https://tribune.net.ph/2024/10/22/baggage-system-upgrade-underway-naia-operator
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Gustavo J Oppenheimer
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