Airlines In The Philippines III

[PAL 747]

Definetely unique. Small business cabin, large economy class.

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

The single engine option (P&W) was an eye opener in the industry. Arguably you save a lot on a single choice. The opposite holds true when they bogged down. PAL learned that lesson too. CFM saved them. CEB learned it the hard way. APG not so.

I would argue they settle for a diverse engine this time. Not just RR. And for that I think the -10 is better suited for ME and regional network than the neo,  density & cargo wise, while -9 is better suited for EU and NA going forward.

Wait… that little comment about CFM… does that mean that the remaining A321neos are going to be CFM? They cancelled their PW contracts?

In any case, the 787-10 will be the most comfortable option. Those high-density A330s have no place in a full service carrier.

If PAL goes 10-abreast A359s, or even A330neos, that would extinguish PAL’s very long relationship with GE and Boeing in one go. That would be sad.

At the end of the day, though, as much as we hate 9-abreast A330s, they apparently make good money for PAL. So there might be some pressure to go for the affordable a330neo, since if it ain’t broke, why fix it?

[JNC03]

When PAL reveals their A350-1000 cabin product, we can get a clue of what the seats look like on other new aircraft orders

[JNC03]

Philippine Airlines newest Boeing 777-300ER  with registry RP-C7783 returned to Manila. According to witnesses the aircraft retracted its gears even it is not near NAIA and ILS06

[Arianespace]

Solblanc wrote

Arianespace wrote

The single engine option (P&W) was an eye opener in the industry. Arguably you save a lot on a single choice. The opposite holds true when they bogged down. PAL learned that lesson too. CFM saved them. CEB learned it the hard way. APG not so.

I would argue they settle for a diverse engine this time. Not just RR. And for that I think the -10 is better suited for ME and regional network than the neo,  density & cargo wise, while -9 is better suited for EU and NA going forward.

Wait… that little comment about CFM… does that mean that the remaining A321neos are going to be CFM? They cancelled their PW contracts?

I was referring to the A320s which were CFM powered. Not much of an issue. A321s are powered by IAE which also suffered parts logistic issues, but not as bad as P&W which require mandatory downtime, and yes cue on parts availability. If you take a closer look they really diversified their engine choices. They reaped benefits from it. CEB suffered.

The 13 remaining 21n's would still be powered by PW. I would argue that it would be the latest variant of 1100Gs. None of the issues of the present.

From the widebodies, they have GE and RR. Diversification. Getting Airbus would transform that to a single engine choice. Which is inconsistent with its policy direction. Unless, the policy is of course changed by the new management team. I seriously doubt however if they gonna change it because it already showed that it worked for them. As one proof, they are upgrading seats of the IAE powered aircraft which means they are holding it longer than 8 years. This early, I could also see them ordering the CFM when A20n's are ordered.

[JNC03]

Wiser choice for PAL when things go wrong there will be a backup

So for the 787s, 78X and 789 have different purposes for PAL. Will it also mean they will have different engines?

For the neo family, the A320neo order will be CFM and A321neos will be PW. If they hold on to A321ceos for the next 8 years and the neos start to arrive, the narrows in their fleet will be many at the start but gradually will be replaced. But due to the demand will PAL add more narrows aside from A320neo?

What about the Embraer E2s?

[JNC03]

The line for A350s is getting longer with IndiGo ordering 30 A350s with 70 options, deliveries for the LCC will start in 2027.

[romantic_guy08]

I wonder if the CAB/DOTR will have the political will to implement something similar... ?

[JNC03]

Boeing grapples with slower B787, B737 deliveries: Boeing has confirmed it projects a slower increase in the production and delivery of new B787 widebodies due to shortages of key parts from suppliers.


https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/139650-boeing-grapples-with-slower-b787-b737-deliveries?

[seven13]

Has anyone heard PR wet leasing aircraft particularly for SYD/MEL?

[JNC03]

Is there plans for it?

They are utilizing 77W sometimes for those routes

[airline_builder]

got that info from somebody at the "big hangar" PAL has got so many planes with so much to fix but then again, they are "allegedly" being given the "must fly, must release" order from management regardless of.....

this is a result of reactive executives rather than proactive - it was not rocket science when the travel rage was forecasted and airlines were basically sourcing aircrafts to be leased from various suppliers and mind you as of press time there are still a whole lot of widebody readily available - believe it boils down to what gives with these executives, more budget to expand and a trimmed down take home I guess....

[PAL 747]

Not sure if anyone noticed this since we were focused on the new Seattle/Tacoma flight, but it looks like PAL will also resume Sapporo/Chitose this year. Maybe we'll see it when the 2024 winter schedule is released...

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1221859

[airline_builder]

any good news is great news, nonetheless. But on top of anything else, we could only hope for better state of aicraft that are heavily utilized regionally like the 321ceos wherein a case of zero operative lavatory onboard were deployed to Japan numerous times among other planes deployed with unacceptable conditions.

so square one.....aircraft in good shape are available all over the world for lease and yet, there is always what we can call trading in the old for the new? Boeing did that for SQ wayback, why can't we

[Arianespace]

airline_builder wrote

this is a result of reactive executives rather than proactive - it was not rocket science when the travel rage was forecasted and airlines were basically sourcing aircrafts to be leased from various suppliers and mind you as of press time there are still a whole lot of widebody readily available - believe it boils down to what gives with these executives, more budget to expand and a trimmed down take home I guess....

There is a difference between tied hands and free reign. The rest is just title. Nothing else...

[Arianespace]

4 or 5 grounded planes is going up by then. So....

[airline_builder]

the disclaimer for "tied hands" is basically hanging out for the convenience of keeping a job and not necessarily doing the job - eyes on the paycheck, as for a free-hand to run that the young LT the 3rd and whichever matriarchal oversight happening there should be presented with a head strong personality to justify the theories and turn them into formulae.

Unfortunately, what we see and have are stringed characters at the helm.  

[JNC03]

What is the plan of PAL with these IFEs?

[Arianespace]

This one

[airline_builder]

everything seem to be a "make-shift" at Philippine Airlines - wow they just cannot be telling everyone, by late 2025 we have our new product on our long haul. simply put - arrogant and complacent