Airlines In The Philippines II

[Eurest]

I believe the UA SFO-MNL has been discussed here before, it was even in the PH papers as MNL is in range of the ex-Continental 77Es that do the long runs from EWR
If I remember correctly, Ariane brought up the axed MNL UA FAs still having compensation issues
What happened to UA's MNL slot? Were these transferred to NWA?

That picture brings a tear to my eye
1 742 MNL-KIX-SEA
1 744 MNL-NGO-DTW
1 744 MNL-NRT-MSP

Old UA was MNL-NRT-SFO if I remember correctly
Filet Mignon in Y, and lots of the passengers would bathe in the Guess perfume available in the Y lavatories

I left out their US mainland continuing flights since these were on different equipment though same flight number

Anyways, DL is a big headache when it comes to slots and the DoT
I'm not sure if MNL slots are considered use or lose like Haneda by the US DoT
UA has always wanted back in MNL, especially with the numbers they see via the NH JV and their CSR base is in the PH but have a stumbling block and no one to lobby
I think NH would rather have UA go through the JV, even though they could technically lobby since their sister company finished MNL T3?
AA sees ASEAN as a growth opportunity, especially since PR and SQ (and maybe VN) are the only ASEAN-US competitors
MNL is now even more geostrategic because of the 787/A350/B77E&W in the US3 fleet and the ASA has 5th freedom

Does anyone have info on the GE90 on 7775 that had a compressor stall? Was it an AFIKLM refurb?

[Arianespace]

Coincidental or not, UA slots went to NH. And since they left PI they lose the grandfather rights, in a similar fashion DL losses all the rights they have at NRT. And with that, the fifth freedom rights. The only way for them to fly is direct.

Technically, they can still have the 6am time slot and perhaps the midnight run. But I guess they have better things in mind.

[Komarov]

* DAVAO to MANADO
   2P 2979* Tu-Th-Sa  15:00 16:45 (Eff Mar 29)

* ZAMBOANGA to KOTA KINABALU
   2P 2527* Tu-Th-Sa  08:00 09:45 (Eff Mar 29)

~ Operated by PAL Express

[XWB_flyer]

TK will deployed there New A350-900 to MNL starting June 2020 will replaced the B777-300ER.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/287741/turkish-airlines-adds-a350-manila-service-from-june-2020/

[Evodesire]

Heard from the grapevine that one of the reasons why GSM left PAL Holdings and decided to just concentrate on PAL is because the Tans are not in favor of a dual-branding model with GAP. Heard GSM wanted to establish GAP as a full-low cost carrier to really rival CEB and PAA, but the Tans and the board are not happy with the idea.

Looking at things, do you think the board should realize that PAA is catching up in terms of market share and that the LCC model is now the prefered choice for domestic? There is such thing as branding and marketing.

Your thoughts? Should PAL-GAP already go for dual-branding like the Cathay Pacific - HK Express model, or the Qantas - JetStar thing? I only noticed that a single branding strategy works for Western airlines but I doubt it would work for Asian airlines. The PAL-GAP partnership way back when the latter was APX were a powerful tandem.

[Solblanc]

They've tried dual-branding before. It's all well and good, but at the same time, it does cannibalize the market share. The only natural result of a dual brand will be a shrinking PAL brand.

In any case, a single brand is easier to manage and to market, especially since the trend for shorthaul flights regardless of the brand is to offer less and less.

[seven13]

Can PR’s A350 do MNLJFKMNL without payload restriction during summer time? I’m sure it cannot do nonstop return to Manila on winter schedule. I thought their A350 choice would enable them to operate nonstop whole year round without payload restriction.

Would anybody have an idea what maintenance did 7774 did in VCV?

[dobb]

VCV - MLA flight Dec 15 according to FR 24. Though stored pa din ang status sa ibang sites.

[Solblanc]

The A350 can go out with full passengers to JFK any day. Of course it helps that PR A350s aren’t that dense. Other airlines can stuff 330 passengers in it as opposed to PR’s 298.

[Anon]

Actually, it can do return. It takes a more Arctic route and goes over the pole where headwinds aren't as strong. Same for CX's NA East coast flights to HKG.

[seven13]

Solblanc wrote

The A350 can go out with full passengers to JFK any day. Of course it helps that PR A350s aren’t that dense. Other airlines can stuff 330 passengers in it as opposed to PR’s 298.

I don’t think so but of course I do not have the full deets. With 30J and 242Y, around 12W plus all the checked in bags, ID ticket holders (staff tickets) weren’t accommodated for that flight even though W class was wide open, even just the person without their checked in bags. Made me think it’s about the route (towards the east, polar route) that the flight takes versus the western route it takes during summer sched. That it needed more fuel to make the whole flight nonstop.

[Solblanc]

Btw, just a little observation. PAL’s Perth schedules are loaded in their website. It’s been reported in the media. But there’s no fanfare from PAL itself. Shouldn’t an airline heavily promote a route when they launch it? What are they waiting for?

[Arianespace]

Speaking of the bird. Here is something to look forward to next year.

[Anon]

They can use the A35K for routes like JFK as they seem constantly full. If they decide to get the 779, they can use that for LAX, SFO, YVR.

[Richard]

Which means PAL will set orders for the 1000 variant. How many will they order, do you know Ariane?

[Evodesire]

PAL marketing has been slacking lately. They really need to catch up, especially today where the aviation industry is very competitive.

[Arianespace]

If the option is any indication, it would be within that figure.

[Solblanc]

So... PAL is starting SEA and restarting CEB-LAX.

Out of curiosity, aren’t utilization rates on PAL’s long-haul fleet pretty tight as it is? Are these routes coming at the expense of others?

[Arianespace]

Not right now. But they will going to be come May.

[Crash&burn]

PR 124/125 will be gone by then freeing up the B777s.