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Proposal of RSA for Terminal II

Arianespace
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Nice plan. But again like his other airport plan is not feasible mainly because of poor airside planning. If this is comforting, contractors just follow pre-approve airport terminal designs and bid for it.

The best way for San Miguel is bid for terminal 2 expansion project and operate the whole terminal 2. They are now allowed to do that. People at DOTC are drafting the PPP for this. I'm sure this is already on RSA's mind.

By the way that is not how T2 expansion would look like in the future. It is still patterned after T2 design and they have the same tarmac distance with the existing apron.  That is the reason why Village Hotel is required to be demolish to give way for terminal expansion. Because of its existing problem they are just working on the apron. Good render though.
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PAL buyout

Arianespace
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That should be SMC's parting legacy to the airline. Expect none for the next five years until they sort this out. Should be a nice read for everyone out there.

SMC lost money on PAL investment

Airline will need $2B from new partner

By Daxim Lucas
PDI

San Miguel Corp. did not make a profit on its investment in Philippine Airlines (PAL) despite having turned around the moribund flag carrier during the two years when the diversified conglomerate was running the firm.

In fact, SMC president Ramon S. Ang said yesterday that the conglomerate—the country’s largest business group in terms of asset value—did not even break even on its PAL venture owing to its failure to recover its cost of funds.

“SMC lost money in this deal,” he said, breaking his silence for the first time since the airline was reacquired by tycoon Lucio Tan—its former controlling shareholder —two weeks ago.

Ang said he was willing to forego a long drawnout negotiation process with Tan because it was in danger of turning hostile, with frustration on both sides running high after a year of flip-flopping decisions by PAL’s former owner.

All told, the SMC group invested $1.36 billion in PAL—an amount Ang recovered, minus the interest that he should have charged for it over two years.

“If we fought over it, it would destroy the value of PAL,” he said, adding that adopting a hardline negotiating stance would result in a “lose-lose” situation for both sides and eventually erode the value of both tycoons’ holdings. “So I agreed to sell.”

Ang described the poor state of the airline’s finances when he assumed its presidency in 2012 after a $500-million deal with Tan gave SMC 49 percent of the airline, including management control.

He said that, on average, airlines spend 40 percent of total revenues on fuel and maintenance costs.

However, for PAL, which was saddled with older, gas-guzzling aircraft, fuel and maintenance expenses were as high as 55 percent of revenues when SMC came in. It was at this point when the new management decided to embark on a massive refleeting program and ordered a fleet of newer, more fuel-efficient planes from European plane-maker Airbus.

It was also at this point when allegations surfaced that Ang was supposedly earning commissions from PAL’s refleeting program. In response, Ang released a certification issued by Airbus upon his request to debunk the rumors.

“Both parties hereby represent and warrant that they have not paid, agreed to pay, authorized the payment of or caused to be paid, directly or indirectly in any form whatsoever any commission, percentage, contingent fee, brokerage or other similar payments of any kind, in connection with the establishment or operation of the agreement [to purchase 54 new aircraft] to any employee of the other party or to any person or entity in the other party’s country or elsewhere,” said Airbus senior vice president Cristophe Mourey in a July 23, 2012, letter to PAL.

“I don’t have the heart to make money from PAL,” Ang said, responding to allegations of profiting from aircraft orders.

Asked about the airline’s prospects going forward, Ang said it would be crucial for Tan to bring in a strategic partner to help buttress PAL’s books.

“Assuming the strategic investor would need to bring in $1 billion in equity, they would need up to $1 billion more for the airline’s working capital and to pay for aircraft deliveries in 2015,”
 he said. “So the new partner needs around $2 billion.”

The SMC chief said that he has effectively relinquished control of the airline since Sept. 15, describing his two-year stint at PAL’s helm as “mission accomplished.”

“We improved the image of the country overseas, we restored the airline’s profitability and we got the country taken out of the blacklist of both Europe and the US Federal Aviation Administration, with a lot of help from Airbus,” he said.

Read more: http://business.inquirer.net/179266/smc-lost-money-on-pal-investment#ixzz3E7diBdlp
Pretty sums up everything I told you earlier. Also validates earlier report on deferment of orders. A330 orders will be done by December thus, JJB's remark posted earlier that none is deferred. So what is affected by deferment? The A321NEO delivery beginning 2015.

Which got me thinking. Could this be one of the reason why Perth and Brisbane was stricken earlier off the list because of the NEO deferrals?
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Re: PAL buyout

Evodesire
Oh well, at least many of us are still expecting for the worse with the LTG in. It would take more than 2 years to turn around the airline completely and around 5 for SMC to make money.
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Re: PAL buyout

cabinpressure
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Arianespace wrote

SMC lost money on PAL investment

Airline will need $2B from new partner

By Daxim Lucas
PDI

“We improved the image of the country overseas, we restored the airline’s profitability and we got the country taken out of the blacklist of both Europe and the US Federal Aviation Administration, with a lot of help from Airbus,” he said.

Read more: http://business.inquirer.net/179266/smc-lost-money-on-pal-investment#ixzz3E7diBdlp
Pretty sums up everything I told you earlier. Also validates earlier report on deferment of orders. A330 orders will be done by December thus, JJB's remark posted earlier that none is deferred. So what is affected by deferment? The A321NEO delivery beginning 2015.

Which got me thinking. Could this be one of the reason why Perth and Brisbane was stricken earlier off the list because of the NEO deferrals?
That bit on Airbus helping PAL a lot intrigued me. Or it could just be my over-active imagination.
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Re: PAL buyout

Evodesire
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I wonder now from whom can the LTG get that $2B. I honestly doubt someone would want to partner with them after what they did to SMC. In 2 years, SMC wont make a profit from PAL, but PAL would be able to get out of the red. It may take 5 years down the line for SMC itself to make money from PAL and I am sure RSA had that in mind which is why they placed in a huge order of jets with deliveries beyond 2015.

Just makes me think, if LT really loves PAL, why doesn't he want to let go of it when he knows he does not have the $$$ to grow it further? Sometimes, I do think that he will just use PAL to make his other businesses grow like Macro Asia. And I do see another change in management in the near future.
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Re: PAL buyout

Evodesire
Just my predictions and analysis. I may be wrong but I hope to be right...

RSA must have known that it takes more than 2 years for SMC to get its investment back. Reason why he had plane orders for delivery up to 2017.

Lately, he sold back SMC's shares to LTG because perhaps, LT and RSA's group was going sour. LT had a different direction whereas RSA envisioned a strong and bold airline. It may have been stressful if the captain wants to descend and the co-pilot wants to ascend.

Then suddenly RSA presents a plan to build up NAIA 2.

Maybe RSA knows that under the LTG, PAL will flutter and the clamor for SMC to win back PAL grow. Only time RSA would be convinced to regain control of PAL is if LT sells 100% of the airline (which may be hard especially if his ego is way above the clouds).

Now I just dont know if LT feels  the pressure but they have no choice but to continue to make PAL grow and win, even better than how SMC did it. If not, it will be a complete disaster on their name and will definitely show that RSA is better off running PAL than LTG. And if PAL flutters under LT and Cebu Pacific even eats the international market share of PAL, clamor may grow from the employees to the PAL nationalistas that RSA takes back PAL 100%.

The way I see things, RSA selling back his shares MAY BE a strategy to gain 100% of PAL later on. Studying how RSA strategizes, its very unpredictable but it delivers decisive results.

Well, the fact that he presented a plan for the expansion of T2 should tell us someing.
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PAL buyout

Arianespace
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Evodesire wrote
I wonder now from whom can the LTG get that $2B. I honestly doubt someone would want to partner with them after what they did to SMC. In 2 years, SMC wont make a profit from PAL, but PAL would be able to get out of the red. It may take 5 years down the line for SMC itself to make money from PAL and I am sure RSA had that in mind which is why they placed in a huge order of jets with deliveries beyond 2015.
The answer to this famous question lies with what RSA has said last Monday. In the words of Cito Beltran,

"Lucio Tan had offered to sell out his shares, then changed his mind and offered to buy back SMC’s shares in PAL, but the white knight of the LT group bailed out. Then SMC was offered to buy out Lucio Tan until someone from the LT group suspected the entry of PAL into a code sharing agreement with Etihad Airlines as the first step into the eventual entry of Etihad as partner to replace the Lucio Tan group.

Rather than being cooked in their own fat, the LT group figured it would be smarter to buy out SMC and bring in Etihad whose investment can refund Lucio Tan’s expense while giving him control of an airline back in the black and tied up with a strong partner in the Middle East.

Question is: will Etihad come in with the necessary investment? If not, Tan’s only hope would be to convince Manny Pangilinan to be a white knight or turn to his contacts in Mainland China for financing. Any of the 3 options must happen because PAL will soon need added capital to pay for their planes for 2015 and 2016, that bill will be due in 90 days. "
The white knight mentioned by Cito happens to be ANA.

I mention the possible A321NEO deferment. A friend at PAL said they will not be due until 2016. What they will get next year is another set of 15 A321 CEO if they are still coming.


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PAL buyout

Arianespace
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Evodesire wrote
Just my predictions and analysis. I may be wrong but I hope to be right...

RSA must have known that it takes more than 2 years for SMC to get its investment back. Reason why he had plane orders for delivery up to 2017.
In fairness to the Lucio Tan Group, SMC was paid a reasonable amount of money. Not the price that they have wanted but still a fair and just compensation. It was not a loss as RSA would like us to believe it was.
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Winter sched

seven13
according to the blog, PAL is able to secure early AM flight in LHR thus will reset the departure time from MnL to early AM to late PM.

PR112 is now being stricken off but shall be back during the peak season. Rumors has it the NYC will not proceed as planned by MAR2015. I don't know how true is that.

I'm quite nervous how PAL's future under new management (again) but I'm hoping for the best, though.
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Re: Winter sched

airboy007
seven13 wrote
according to the blog, PAL is able to secure early AM flight in LHR thus will reset the departure time from MnL to early AM to late PM.

PR112 is now being stricken off but shall be back during the peak season. Rumors has it the NYC will not proceed as planned by MAR2015. I don't know how true is that.

I'm quite nervous how PAL's future under new management (again) but I'm hoping for the best, though.
112 has been cancelled due to poor loads since its off peak months. I flew 112/113 mid this month, and the ex-Ibe was only half full, so this isn't really surprising. I just hope they upgrade flights for the coming holidays.

The new timeslot for LHR will make it ideal to connect to more flights out of LHR, and more domestic and regional flights out of MNL so this is exciting. You guys should see how much PAL is advertised in london. All the major train stations, tube stations and even newspapers have our ads. Wishing for continued marketing aggressiveness with the new management.
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Winter sched

Arianespace
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An airline insider told me that LHR has been doing good lately and 777w will be back for this route. So does this confirm the earlier rumor? It  was broken out here if I remember correctly. They also confirmed late night departure for LHR. So the story is true. And so does NYC. There are no changes just yet. RSA will be President at PAL until October 31. It is possible that we will hear a different story come November under the stewardship of JJB

And now here's another rumor floating. Paris will be back online this year possibly December. Could this be the parting gift of RSA? or a burden of JJB?

By the way, the one who broke this news is no other than the President of the Philippines. I wonder no one scooped that story. When I verified the news on tv, it was apparently already in the table, whatever that is. I looked up the news and there was none other than reports made January of this year.

Airboy have you heard of this?
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Re: Winter sched

seven13
This is the first time I heard about CDG. I hope we are able to get the desired slots.

PR720 will depart between 2300H-0000H to make it to the 0700-0759H bracket in LHR, what time do you think it'll depart there and it's arrival time here in MNL?
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Would anybody here able to confirm that PR is offering STPC during long layovers (even those nationalities requiring visas to enter PH)? I've heard about it but can't confirm if PR offers them.
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PR112/3, flying it half full wouldn't be that bad as long as the front has pretty decent loads. It gives passengers an alternative from PR102. It was surprising though during RSA management, PR114 wasn't reinstated. Are going to see it again when JJB takes place?
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So NYC bad rumors remains a rumor. Have you heard about passengers who already purchased tickets were given full refund because apparently it's not pushing through this coming MAR2015. Funny how those negatrons could make a fuss!
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Re: Winter sched

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Arianespace wrote
An airline insider told me that LHR has been doing good lately and 777w will be back for this route. So does this confirm the earlier rumor? It  was broken out here if I remember correctly. They also confirmed late night departure for LHR. So the story is true. And so does NYC. There are no changes just yet. RSA will be President at PAL until October 31. It is possible that we will hear a different story come November under the stewardship of JJB

And now here's another rumor floating. Paris will be back online this year possibly December. Could this be the parting gift of RSA? or a burden of JJB?

By the way, the one who broke this news is no other than the President of the Philippines. I wonder no one scooped that story. When I verified the news on tv, it was apparently already in the table, whatever that is. I looked up the news and there was none other than reports made January of this year.

Airboy have you heard of this?
I was the one who brought up the return of LHR to a 77W... Was told by a friend that LHR will return to a 77W starting October 1...

the A343 to LHR carries around 250 units of ipads to compensate for the lack of IFE I was told...
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Re: Winter sched

romantic_guy08
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airboy007 wrote
seven13 wrote
according to the blog, PAL is able to secure early AM flight in LHR thus will reset the departure time from MnL to early AM to late PM.

PR112 is now being stricken off but shall be back during the peak season. Rumors has it the NYC will not proceed as planned by MAR2015. I don't know how true is that.

I'm quite nervous how PAL's future under new management (again) but I'm hoping for the best, though.
112 has been cancelled due to poor loads since its off peak months. I flew 112/113 mid this month, and the ex-Ibe was only half full, so this isn't really surprising. I just hope they upgrade flights for the coming holidays.

The new timeslot for LHR will make it ideal to connect to more flights out of LHR, and more domestic and regional flights out of MNL so this is exciting. You guys should see how much PAL is advertised in london. All the major train stations, tube stations and even newspapers have our ads. Wishing for continued marketing aggressiveness with the new management.
how are the loads to SYD? were they affected by the launch of 5J?
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Re: Winter sched

seven13
someone analyzed that carriers offering onestop service between OZ and PH will most likely be affected rather than PR, 5J and QF.

No idea how are the loads for SYD nowadays.
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Re: Winter sched

Evodesire
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The pressure is now on JJB and LT to do all it takes to keep their ego up there after RSA even made LHR work.
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first a380 commercial flight to manila

chowpau
Got an official word: one time A380 Emirates commercial flight to Manila EK334/335 on Oct 7. ETA 2210H. Will be flown by the first Filipino A380 Captain, Capt Franklyn Desiderio. It will be the first A380 commercial/revenue flight.
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Re: first a380 commercial flight to manila

Evodesire
Will this already park at NAIA 3?
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Re: PR to JFK on MAR2015

romantic_guy08
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romantic_guy08 wrote
seven13 wrote
PR to start MNL-YVR-JFK vv onboard A340 starting Mar2015

PR126 2350MNL-2050YVR2250-0700JFK
PR127 1100JFK-1350YVR1520-2050MNL

YYZ to start 4th frequency using 77W
Now bookable via Travelocity... not yet in the PR website...
Looks like this is still a go...

PAL to start flights to New York in March 2015

ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 09/30/2014 12:38 PM | Updated as of 09/30/2014 12:38 PM
MANILA, Philippines - Philippine Airlines will start flying to New York City on March 15, 2015, the flag carrier announced on Tuesday.

In a statement, PAL chairman and chief executive officer Lucio C. Tan said the auspicious start of regular flights to New York will coincide with PAL's 74th founding anniversary.

PAL resumes its flights to the East Coast, around 18 years after it pulled out of the region in 1997.

The New York flight, which will be approximately 16.5 total flying hours, will be PAL's longest route.

PAL will have four flights a week for its Manila-Vancouver-New York service. It will operate at Terminal 1 of New York's JFK International Airport. PAL will have full traffic rights between Vancouver and New York.

Flight PR 126 departs Manila every Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday at 11:50 p.m. Arrival in Vancouver is 8:50 p.m. on the same day. After a two-hour transit stop, the service continues on to New York at 10:50 p.m., touching down at Terminal 1 of JFK International at 7:00 a.m. the following day.

The return service, PR 127, departs New York at 11:00 a.m. every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, arriving in Vancouver at 1:50 p.m. It departs the Canadian city at 3:20 p.m. and lands back in Manila at 8:35 p.m. the following day.

PAL will use the Airbus A340-300 jets, which seats 36 passengers in business class and 218 in economy.

The New York route will bring to five the airline's US destinations which include Los Angeles, San Francisco, Honolulu and Guam.

The New York service will also boost PAL's flighths to Canada. Starting March 15, 2015, the current daily service between Manila and Vancouver will increase to 11 flights weekly with three departure times from Manila - mid-afternoon, early evening and late evening. Manila-Toronto will also add a fourth weekly frequency.

There are aroun half a million ethnic Filipinos reside on the East Coast, with over 253,000 in the New York-New Jersey metropolitan area, 90,000 in Virginia, 75,000 in Washington, D.C. and environs, and 31,000 in the Philadelphia metro area.
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Re: Winter sched

seven13
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Has anybody read the news about JJB being the GM that will oversee the day to day operation then Mr. Chua, President of MacroAsia, will be President?

Do you think they will be able to steer the airline continuously to profitability? I do hope JJB will be given better powers to implement plans.
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