Airlines in the Philippines

[Evodesire]

RSA is to stay President and COO for a month or so until the transition period ends. I hope they all continue what SMC has started. And I know for a fact that LT was there when the A321s and A330s were ordered so I am hopign they do not cancel the orders. If LT sees PAL as special to him, then he better do something to make it grow further and not to just leave ti stagnant.

[Arianespace]

A buddy of mine just have a conversation with JJB yesterday and he said that there is no deferment of existing Aircraft orders. Fleet planning has never been affected and is still on schedule whatever that is. What has been the talk of the town could well mean the new orders for wide body aircraft whose decision to order has been deferred until next year. So there it goes. All's well that ends well.

[Evodesire]

So simply said, they will still continue what RSA has started inclusing company thrust, expansion of routes, single branding, hybrid model, etc? Well, if this is working for PAL, I dont see the need to reinvent the wheel. I just hope that the new widebody orders would be placed in at an earlier time. Maybe they are just waiting for $$$ to put in that order.

HEard also RSA will remain as President and COO for a month or so.

[seven13]

Cool!
I have to disagree with the one posted online that 8764 hasn't been delivered yet. It's already flying.

[romantic_guy08]

Arianespace wrote

A buddy of mine just have a conversation with JJB yesterday and he said that there is no deferment of existing Aircraft orders. Fleet planning has never been affected and is still on schedule whatever that is. What has been the talk of the town could well mean the new orders for wide body aircraft whose decision to order has been deferred until next year. So there it goes. All's well that ends well.

Read in philippineairspace that JJB is currently reviewing current programs and strategies...

[eejayg]

It's 8765 that's currently being prepped in TLS so that's probably a typo.. 8764 was delivered last Aug 28 or 29.. It's good to hear that the Airbus deliveries will continue as planned but it looks like the cancellation of the B757 order is all but confirmed..

[Evodesire]

I dont mind the cancellation of the 757s. For as long as they don't cancel or defer the remaining Airbus jets.

[Evodesire]

Farewell video of PAL's 747! Awesome video!

http://vimeo.com/105836123

[Arianespace]

romantic_guy08 wrote

Read in philippineairspace that JJB is currently reviewing current programs and strategies...

Evodesire wrote

I dont mind the cancellation of the 757s. For as long as they don't cancel or defer the remaining Airbus jets.

ElmerJrG wrote

It's 8765 that's currently being prepped in TLS so that's probably a typo.. 8764 was delivered last Aug 28 or 29.. It's good to hear that the Airbus deliveries will continue as planned but it looks like the cancellation of the B757 order is all but confirmed..

It should be well and good for them. I don't see the point of having them anyway considering the NEO's delivery next year. Although I see the point that they were intended to circumvent ASA regulations until Australia agreed to another talks in November.

I believe this is the real reason for the abandonment of the 757. 5J won't be pestering them of their slots. And that is airline strategy.

[romantic_guy08]

Arianespace wrote

romantic_guy08 wrote

Read in philippineairspace that JJB is currently reviewing current programs and strategies...

Evodesire wrote

I dont mind the cancellation of the 757s. For as long as they don't cancel or defer the remaining Airbus jets.

It should be well and good for them. I don't see the point of having them anyway considering the NEO's delivery next year. Although I see the point that they were intended to circumvent ASA regulations until Australia agreed to another talks in November.

I believe this is the real reason for the abandonment of the 757. 5J won't be pestering them of their slots. And that is airline strategy.

Read this though:

5J To Take Unused PR Slots to OZ
13 September 2014

Low-cost carrier Cebu Pacific (CEB) declared today that they will take the unused slots of Philippine Airlines (PAL) to Australia after it failed to provide additional services to four major airports there.

PAL recently withdrew flight applications to Perth and Brisbane airports originally planned for October and lately moved to November until it was eventually stricken off from Airport Coordination Australia database.

Cebu Pacific said PAL has been blocking them from using some of its unused slots which prevent the airline from providing daily services to Sydney.

The airline operates the densest A330 in the world from Manila initially operating four times a week that will increase to five flights a week beginning December 10.

Gary Kingshott, Chief Executive Adviser of Cebu Pacific said they will take that option before requesting for expansion of Air Services with Australia that would allow them to fly double daily flights to points in Sydney and Melbourne.

[Arianespace]

Yes but flight applications take at least 3 months at CAB assuming there is no contest at PAL. So if 5J files it this week they could have approval by December which should become moot because by that time new entitlements should be available to the Philippines. Right now though 5J cannot apply for rights that still doesn't exists.

And judging from CAB hearings affecting PAL entitlements there is always contest.

[cabinpressure]

seven13 wrote

cabinpressure wrote

Funny, a lot of anonymous comments on the blogs were hoping for LT to take back PAL just for this reason alone. Careful what you wish for.

I do hope JJB gets more leeway now though.

I do hope, he's free to do as he wishes for the airline!

For sure, but they are probably not in a position to do it now. Maybe more certain for long-haul? I read on the blog that PAL will be using OnAir Plug. I hope that this will further improve their customer servicing aside from CRM.

OPINION: Why O'Leary's transatlantic dream might have to wait
Flightglobal.com

It is an absurdly great time to be selling widebody airliners. One look at the order backlogs of Airbus and Boeing confirms this point, but also consider this: there is a premier customer with ample access to financing – Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary – who claims he is unable to place an order for up to 50 widebodies within the next five years because other airlines and lessors have taken all the available production slots.

That is the definition of a supply and demand curve which is tilted way off balance....

In many ways, the Airbus-Boeing duopoly has served airlines well, providing a relatively stable source for well-built, high-performance aircraft. There is a downside though, when production capacity is swamped by a prolonged period of heated demand.

Just wondering how this will affect PAL's long-haul orders in the near future. Seems those A340s will stay in the fleet a bit longer. Also, if they can offer an earlier slot, I sense an Airbus order.

[airboy007]

Just wondering how this will affect PAL's long-haul orders in the near future. Seems those A340s will stay in the fleet a bit longer. Also, if they can offer an earlier slot, I sense an Airbus order.


I foresee these Iberia planes flying with PAL for 5-10 more years. I just hope they get refurbished just like the 747s to make the cabin more competitive. Although, not taking into consideration the lack of decent IFE, the seats are actually pretty comfortable given its 2-4-2 configuration. And yeah, the business class cabin crew seats can be reclined! Like a boss!!

[Evodesire]

I see the A340s would stay an extra 2 to 5 years lets say they would put an order for ultra long haul jets next year. If PAL gets more 77Ws, then maybe they would arrive in 2 years from the time order would be placed. As for the A350, maybe in 3 to 4 years yet down the road.

[cabinpressure]

airboy007 wrote

I foresee these Iberia planes flying with PAL for 5-10 more years. I just hope they get refurbished just like the 747s to make the cabin more competitive. Although, not taking into consideration the lack of decent IFE, the seats are actually pretty comfortable given its 2-4-2 configuration. And yeah, the business class cabin crew seats can be reclined! Like a boss!!

That is so cool! By the way, you guys are right, I read on the Airspace blog that PAL will install the wireless IFE on the A340s. That will give them a couple of years.

[romantic_guy08]

Proposal of RSA for Terminal II extension or new terminal at the old Nayong Pilipino site



https://twitter.com/daxlucas/status/513929578771787776/photo/1

[seven13]

I guess aviation still has a place in RSA's heart.

[Evodesire]

I really have to say that PAL marketing has improved a lot! Now all their ads looks fit for a full service carrier while offering competitive prices. Check out their 2nd TV ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7a67WGF1mk

Their social media has improved a lot. Their ads are totally way better.

I love it also how they now use "Home" as a branding strategy for the airline. Their marketing direction now is more clear. Kudos for a great job!

[airboy007]

romantic_guy08 wrote

Proposal of RSA for Terminal II extension or new terminal at the old Nayong Pilipino site



https://twitter.com/daxlucas/status/513929578771787776/photo/1

If this pushes through, all will be well til 2020 i guess. plus that additional runway that is. Conditions in Terminal 2 are deteriorating fast. With all the new flights, the lines are just crazy. Yesterday, I was flying to SIN, the line in the ladies bathroom was really long! Poor ladies, they had to endure it a little more.

[romantic_guy08]

airboy007 wrote

romantic_guy08 wrote

Proposal of RSA for Terminal II extension or new terminal at the old Nayong Pilipino site



https://twitter.com/daxlucas/status/513929578771787776/photo/1

If this pushes through, all will be well til 2020 i guess. plus that additional runway that is. Conditions in Terminal 2 are deteriorating fast. With all the new flights, the lines are just crazy. Yesterday, I was flying to SIN, the line in the ladies bathroom was really long! Poor ladies, they had to endure it a little more.

Heard that LHR will go back to the 77W starting Oct. 1?