I think the new aircraft is the reason for the good LF in London and the hard product on the A359. Unless they retrofitted the 777s.
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PAL first A321neo in ACF configuration.
https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status/1114817904925716481?s=19 |
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I'm curious as to what 5J plans for A339's, I doubt they are for Pacific US
I doubt the US3 would allow a long-haul low cost after seeing what Norwegian did to transatlantic. I also don't see the US bureaucracy approving them, RE: Hawaii application limbo? Esp w/out Boeing's lobbyists to aid them And with the Transpacific overcapacity with fares @ 400$, would customers choose an LCC over a full service? The 251T A339 launched at Singapore last year is set at 287pax 3 class for 7200NM STN? ORY? FCO? MAD? Anyways there were 6 orders unaccounted for last June? Mystery unveiled 6.2019? I'm not as attuned to the LCC crowd so do fill me in Also I think someone asked about PR's VN & TH flights. They are doing very well connecting pax from NA(US&CA) to TH & VN, and DPS, esp. J for TH |
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That is if they take the 339. There is No announcement from them or insinuation that they will take those. So the 787 is good as the 339, unless of course you have better information than mine. If you take a look at their ranges it can easily fly HNL at full payload so its difficult to discount that possibility. They are not in Hawaii because their plane doesn't have the leg to fly there at the configuration they like. Dense that is, 436 seats of them. They even ditches cargo in MEL and DXB on their heaviest variant even when Airbus says it can be done. The new Airbus however doesn't have that issue.
Speaking of Thailand, I learned they do have droves of transit passengers to North America. Seeing a 777 disembarkation from BKK, half of it goes the other way to transfer. PAL must have a better fare now as they are also a price sensitive bunch.
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It seems PAL is right on cue in Thailand. Could this be also Bangkok Airways passengers connecting MNL?
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40 percent market share is quite good considering the LCC traffic and TG offering connecting flights to Europe.
Over here, TG used to be the preferred carrier to Manila. Then the ME3 came. And CX came. TG struggles, but they don’t have quite the same reach |
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This is what happens when you are biting more than what you can chew. While fast rotation made CEB very profitable, this scenario, aside from the congestion, was actually its downside, more fleet out of service, which legally is not "acts of God". This is the reason why they are paying for the re-scheduling. Of course, they are not telling how much did they pay for the fine. You can never find that in the news. At least, not yet. And I'm not yet talking about how this affect their revenue stream. A 50.6% decline in revenue is what you get when you force your plane to fly and hover in circles waiting to land. They were asked to move their ATR to Clark but they never did. So now they are reaping some of the consequences.
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Yeah i witnessed the mayhem from the sidelines in MNL and CGY.
Due to the closure of CRK, my PR flight to CGY was packed and overbooked. we were an hour delayed due to this so not bad. My friends also flying to CGY that day via 5J was delayed from 830pm to 530am. Their flight was delayed then cancelled then finally pushed through. They were given food (Yoshinoya - buti naman!) but not much else in terms of updates. My return flight to MNL the following day was still carnage. PR and Z2 flights were on average an hour delayed as usual, while the poor folks on 5J380 supposed to fly out at 1130am had their turnaround aircraft expected to arrive at CGY at 7pm! Overworked planes with no spares...this is what you get. To be fair, even PR is not safe here, at least on the long haul when 7772 got hit by lightning a few months back. that was also chaos. |
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And the news on penalties finally leaked out. Mind you, its not three (3) days. We are talking about weeks here.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/04/30/19/cebu-pacific-could-face-penalties-as-more-flights-cancelled-regulator
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Here is an interesting article worth reading. Now for the missing part. Would you believe that because of 3 grounded A320 this is what is happening? Their word not mine.
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It's so quiet lately. 2020 is a little more than 6mos away, haven't seen any new stuff from PR to get to that 5 stars aside from the amadeus upgrade and the furla amenity kits.
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Here is photos of PAL first A321neo in Cabin Flex configuration. Looks similar to TK A21N with doors 3 deactivated. Notice that a few rows of window have been covered which i heard is a placement for a center lavatory after J cabin and before the Y section, also the aircraft is wearing a mask in its front windshield. Notice that lacking a radome like the one found on there first batch of A321neo.
https://www.instagram.com/aeronewsx/p/BxAE-R7h8hV/?igshid=nwrr15argvij |
Wonder what the Y and J seats would look like. No dome means no WiFi...they are killing Pal OnAir?
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