Airlines in the Philippines

[Juvs]

Is it true that airlines in the PH for ex Pal is not on par with other international airlines in terms of salary/benefits? Or this was a problem decades ago? Tia.

[Arianespace]

Its like saying, is the cost of living in the Philippines the same in other countries? If yes, then they should have the same salary.

[Arianespace]

It has been presented before in detail that YYZ is weight restricted. So no point of arguing if it can carry 370 non stop. The point of discussion should start somewhere near the 280 mark. That is still 75.6% LF which is quite high in airline business.

[Arianespace]

And from flight dispatch, the haywire just got worst affecting flights to YVR and YYZ. All because of the absence of one plane.

As for the A350, they are not yet cleared to fly North America. Permit hasn't arrive yet which usually takes 2-3 months. Even CX has familiarization flights across asia before being permitted to cross the big pond months later. I think its more to do with flight and cabin crew qualification and familiarization for ETOPS ie operational flight hours accumulation similar to what you can find in this guidance notes from FAA. Even if accelerated it will still take that long due due to regulatory associated delays.

Note that aircraft certification is different from etops operational approval.

[seven13]

I was pertaining to the B777 blocking J seats versus Y, I'm not sure though.
Remember when PR started YYZ, it flew MNL-YYZ non stop then it flew via YVR going back to Manila.

[Unbreakable]

A PAL Philippines Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration RP-C7772 performing flight PR-116 (dep Aug 1st) from Manila (Philippines) to Vancouver,BC (Canada) with 387 people on board, was enroute at FL310 over the Philippine Sea when the crew observed a low oil pressure indication for the left hand engine (GE90), shut the engine down and drifted down to FL195. The aircraft diverted to Tokyo's Haneda Airport for a safe landing on runway 34R.

The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground in Tokyo about 31 hours after landing.

https://avherald.com/h?article=4bbdefd1&opt=0

[B77Wflyer]

I guess it was a good idea that PAL decided to renewed the lease of 7776 and 7777, having spare aircrafts on stand by just in cased of iregular operations.

[Travelbug_89]

Rp-c7781 is near the hangars where the qantas birds hang out for the day. They must've gotten the part it needed to finally get it back in service again

[Arianespace]

7772 was back in service last night. But long haul operations is still hay wired. A340 is not gonna help when your booking is full.

[Unbreakable]

quite horrible what happened to those pax.

Okay just an update on our situation. We finally arrive Vancouver after having spent a total of 26 hours in Haneda (in the terminal). Before departing, a ground staff representing PAL explained that the aircraft we originally used was still under maintenance and that a rescue flight was sent from Manila at the expense of a cancelled LA flight (dont know how true this is im too tired to verify). The reason we werent given hotel accomodations was because hotels were fully booked due to a "month long Japanese holiday" according to the same person. (I call bull on this one). Anyway, to make up for the huge inconvenience they brought upon us, we were all given free Mabuhay miles equivalent to a MNL-YVR-MNL round trip ticket.

When we got to Vancouver, those who missed their connecting flights were billeted to hotels and flights were rebooked for the next day free of charge.

My thoughts? 26 hours without a bed to sleep on is just too much of an inconvenience. Im 36 years old and fairly healthy but there were PWDs and pax with infants. Bus gates 131-136 where we were waiting started to look like a refugee camp and passengers started referring to themselves as refugees (to lighten the mood).

Overall, a very bad experience for me and my family. We are just happy to be sleeping on a bed right now.
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No backup planes :(

[Arianespace]

This is one of those times where travel insurance pays off. But who takes a bother about it? Few, and the rest none. They end whining. Sure, it does happen to the best of us.

On the bright side, its better safe and late than promptly vanish on radar. Seriously, nothing can be done about it when you're in the air. While it can fly with one engine, it must be put down ASAP. The downside of the twin, evidently.

Then you remember the goodness of the quad. You need two disabled engine to put it down.

[Unbreakable]

Had the best use of travel insurance during my honeymoon.

Got the premium insurance (Chubb) when i went on my honeymoon to iceland.
IcelandAir/Turkish lost our bags, but got it back after 28hours. Made 2 claims:

1 to turkish and they said they'd reimburse all the winter clothing we bought due to lost bags(approx 45K)
1 to Chubb where they paid us $2400 for our troubles.

All in all, we got back 50% of what we spent in total. not bad at all.

[Arianespace]

On another note, CEB has began aircraft upgrade to some major domestic route which it cannot yet fly the A330. That is 50 more seats on sale per flight to PPS, CGY, ILO, BCD, TAC, GES, ZAM and more domestic destinations coming up for the A321 bird.

According to CEB flight ops peps they will have an all A321 service ex MNL by 2022. That means all A320 is heading to all its hubs across the country. That's another thankless scoop that you can't find in another forum.

But of course, I've been telling you about this in the past.

[Arianespace]

While we are talking about sardine-can layout, here's an interesting story for the B737 max planes

https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginnis/article/American-Boeing-737-max-seats-lavatories-12934976.php

CEB will definitely have one of those toilets. Glad PAL is not following in that direction.

[B77Wflyer]

I've flown CEB A321ceo last May from GES to MNL. I wanted to check the rear if they where equip with Space-flex Lavatory, but did not managed to see if it was equip. However on the way back I chat with an FA and told me that the lav location is different from the A320, Is there a seat map of CEB A321ceo? also glad PAL decided not to installed Space-flex Lav on there A321neo.

[B77Wflyer]

Speaking of A321 PAL is increasing frequency between MNL to BNE from 4 to 5 times weekly for winter of 2018.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/280034/philippine-airlines-increases-brisbane-service-in-nw18/

Also POM aircraft will be changed from A320 to A321neo starting last Aug 9,2018, with frequency also set to increased.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279839/philippine-airlines-adds-a321neo-port-moresby-service-from-aug-2018/

PAL will be also add frequency between MNL and SYD from 7 to 11 times weekly and will be mostly operated by the A321neo starting FEB next year.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279710/philippine-airlines-increases-sydney-service-from-dec-2018/

[Arianespace]

B77Wflyer wrote

PAL will be also add frequency between MNL and SYD from 7 to 11 times weekly and will be mostly operated by the A321neo starting FEB next year.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279710/philippine-airlines-increases-sydney-service-from-dec-2018/

And to think I was speaking about this just six months ago. And they are coming true as we speak.

Arianespace wrote

With six of them coming this year, we should see SYD on 2x daily and MEL daily flights in addition to inaugural March flights in BNE. We could see DEL in alternating days when they are flown.

The relieve A330's out of Oz is expected to fly MNL-AKL replacing the A340.

By the way, two A330s are going for service checks early next year. Most likely the 876x. Would they also become tri-class? Abangan!

[Unbreakable]

Arianespace wrote

B77Wflyer wrote

PAL will be also add frequency between MNL and SYD from 7 to 11 times weekly and will be mostly operated by the A321neo starting FEB next year.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279710/philippine-airlines-increases-sydney-service-from-dec-2018/

And to think I was speaking about this just six months ago. And they are coming true as we speak.

Arianespace wrote

With six of them coming this year, we should see SYD on 2x daily and MEL daily flights in addition to inaugural March flights in BNE. We could see DEL in alternating days when they are flown.

The relieve A330's out of Oz is expected to fly MNL-AKL replacing the A340.

By the way, two A330s are going for service checks early next year. Most likely the 876x. Would they also become tri-class? Abangan!

as always, I'm sure i can speak for the majority here that we are appreciative, thankful, and excited to see your posts and updates. keep them coming!

[B77Wflyer]

And to think I was speaking about this just six months ago. And they are coming true as we speak.

Arianespace wrote

With six of them coming this year, we should see SYD on 2x daily and MEL daily flights in addition to inaugural March flights in BNE. We could see DEL in alternating days when they are flown.


The relieve A330's out of Oz is expected to fly MNL-AKL replacing the A340.

Honestly I'm not a fan of PAL using the A321neo on flights to SYD.  it  represents as product downgralde with J going from all aisle-access seats to only the aisle seats and the loss of Premium Economy class as the A321neo is only in a two-class layout. I would probably pick QF over PR on direct flight to SYD as they still used wide-body aircraft (A330), or connect through either HKG or SIN.

By the way, two A330s are going for service checks early next year. Most likely the 876x. Would they also become tri-class? Abangan!


Sense PAL is reducing the number of destination in the Middle east this would free-up a couple of A330 to be refurbished to Tri-class configuration or introduced a new Two-class configuration by  replacing the J class seats from 2-2-2 Equinox 3D to the 1-2-1 Thompson Vantage XL  and economy from 3-3-3 to 2-4-2 with In-seat IFE in all classes. Could either go both ways, would intrested of how is the load factor of Premium Economy on the Tri-class A330s?

[Solblanc]

It is sorta curious that they spent all that money to refurbish the A330s, when the only high-yielding medium-haul route they have is SYD and maybe HNL. They could've gotten cheaper flat J seats without aisle access, similar to the A321 NEO (or even the other A330s), and also not bothered with premium Y. They could've thrown the money on refurbishing the 77Ws instead.

Now there's a product mismatch. When the A350s start LHR, how will they sell premium economy fares on the kangaroo route? And what will be the policy for holders of premium economy tickets that end up on a flight without a W cabin?

The A321NEOs also have 168 seats, which is still more seats than Jetblue mint A321s. Could they not have added a small W cabin there? And why go for diamond J seats, when they could have gone for regular Thompson Vantage for a similar cabin, like jetblue? It would've enabled at least some of the J passengers to have direct aisle access and keep a product consistent with the A330s.

I guess the only winners will be the Y passengers, as the Y product will at least be consistent throughout the planes that they will send to Australia.