Airlines in the Philippines

[frequentflier]

PR has TPE-KIX (Japan)

[Solblanc]

So, it's in the news that the configuration for the 9th and 10th PR 77Ws will be the same 42J/328Y.

Given that the regional fleet is getting premium economy and bigger J seats, one has to ask, is there really no desire to refurbish the 777 fleet?

[maortega15]

The 777's really need aisle access. It'd be wise if the 777 and upcoming A350's have the same product.

[Unbreakable]

They want to keep the product consistent across the range.  

not the best way to do it IMO

[seven13]

I agree!
You cannot have 3 different products on a single aircraft type doing the same mission.

As of the moment, PR needs the density of it's 777 since it can fill up the seats on its transpac flights. My hunch is, PR will retrofit these birds sometime after the completion of its A330 refurbishing and after all A359 have arrived.

[Arianespace]

Not bad at all. To think we are just few posters here.

And now airline news, PAL is proposing to make 14 flights a week to SFO from MNL. That should be interesting. You know where the other 777 would go.

[seven13]

Then it frees up another frame of 340s on certain days.
Is SFO as strong as LAX in terms of demand? And are we seeing CEB-SFO in the near future?

BTW, once the A330 becomes less dense, will it able to fly to YVR? East and westbound, nonstop?

[romantic_guy08]

Arianespace wrote

Not bad at all. To think we are just few posters here.

And now airline news, PAL is proposing to make 14 flights a week to SFO from MNL. That should be interesting. You know where the other 777 would go.

Based on the news, one the 777 would be going to LHR.

The other one will complement transpac.

[fd20]

romantic_guy08 wrote

Based on the news, one the 777 would be going to LHR.

The other one will complement transpac.

I guess this is a good sign that LHR is finally working out for them? I mean, they do fly to London daily now. I remember when they were struggling with Toronto, too, and they were so close to scrapping Toronto altogether but eventually decided against it. Now years later, they still fly to Toronto and they've managed to increase their flights to 4x weekly. I recently flew with PAL to Toronto and I'd say the distribution of Vancouver-bound and Toronto-bound passengers was 50-50.

[burnik]

fd20 the way you compose your thoughts is so familiar.  fieldsofdreams is that you?

[fd20]

burnik wrote

fd20 the way you compose your thoughts is so familiar.  fieldsofdreams is that you?

Nope, try again.  If you even bother to do a bit of backtracking (to as far back as 2014, perhaps?) you'll see my numerous rants about that guy. I honestly feel so insulted that you'd compare me to that...creature. I gave up on that other forum a long time ago.

[Unbreakable]

seven13 wrote

I agree!
You cannot have 3 different products on a single aircraft type doing the same mission.

As of the moment, PR needs the density of it's 777 since it can fill up the seats on its transpac flights. My hunch is, PR will retrofit these birds sometime after the completion of its A330 refurbishing and after all A359 have arrived.

It also isn't practical to have a different config 777. Imagine RP-C7777 going tech but RP-C7779 can't replace it since it has less seats/different config.

Besides, despite the same config, 78 and 79 have newer slimline seats = more leg room, capacitive touch screen TVs, etc.

My guess would be as good as yours that all 777s will be retrofitted once all a350s have been delivered.
So for now, the flagship product will be on the A330s.

[Arianespace]

seven13 wrote

Then it frees up another frame of 340s on certain days.
Is SFO as strong as LAX in terms of demand? And are we seeing CEB-SFO in the near future?

BTW, once the A330 becomes less dense, will it able to fly to YVR? East and westbound, nonstop?

The A340's are actually on their way out beginning with the arrival of the new triple seven. Not much of an expansion there until all the A350 arrives.

SFO is a premium market better than LAX. The only problem PR have is I think the morning slots at SFO. They were longing for it for the longest time. CEB-SFO would be possible with the same night-time departure. I believe the plan was to alternate them with LAX, so we could be seeing daily flights to the west coast from CEB soon. Lets just wait for their announcement.

The A330s are capable flying YVR. Remember it flew all the way from TLS to here. It can even reach LHR or LAX based on the aircraft's range. The better question is could it fly profitably there because it cannot carry more than 150 pax to reach it. Even HNL is capped around 300. I say not the best plane for the job.

[maortega15]

Arianespace wrote

The A330s are capable flying YVR. Remember it flew all the way from TLS to here. It can even reach LHR or LAX based on the aircraft's range. The better question is could it fly profitably there because it cannot carry more than 150 pax to reach it. Even HNL is capped around 300. I say not the best plane for the job.

The A330s were able to fly TLS-MNL because it was virtually empty. No bags, passengers or cargo. That won't work with a fully loaded A330 along with fuel, bags, passengers and cargo.

The A350 is better suited for "thinner" markets.

[romantic_guy08]

PR just announced that they are "temporarily" suspending CEB-LAX-CEB...

Philippine Airlines (PAL) will temporarily suspend its Cebu - Los Angeles – Cebu service. (PR 152/153 Tuesdays/Thursdays/Saturdays) effective May 30 this year.

https://web.facebook.com/flyPAL/photos/a.173221215866.160470.117387315866/10155091697700867/?type=3&theater¬if_t=notify_me_page¬if_id=1494232293202481

[Arianespace]

Sad to hear this one. We were actually hoping traffic to pick up. 60% average loads isn't bad. But I guess they cannot sustain losses for this route much longer. And this also confirms some A340 departure from the fleet much earlier.

[romantic_guy08]

Arianespace wrote

Sad to hear this one. We were actually hoping traffic to pick up. 60% average loads isn't bad. But I guess they cannot sustain losses for this route much longer. And this also confirms some A340 departure from the fleet much earlier.

 
Also read that PR is also ending AUH? Can you confirm Ariane?

[Unbreakable]

Arianespace wrote

Sad to hear this one. We were actually hoping traffic to pick up. 60% average loads isn't bad. But I guess they cannot sustain losses for this route much longer. And this also confirms some A340 departure from the fleet much earlier.

Good riddance.

[seven13]

romantic_guy08 wrote

Arianespace wrote

Sad to hear this one. We were actually hoping traffic to pick up. 60% average loads isn't bad. But I guess they cannot sustain losses for this route much longer. And this also confirms some A340 departure from the fleet much earlier.

 
Also read that PR is also ending AUH? Can you confirm Ariane?

Philippine Airlines ends Abu Dhabi service in July 2017

[Richard]

Waiting for arrival of A 350s LAX and SF will be serviced from Cebu. It was right here in the news.

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.d...-dhabi.html

The airline is also ending temporarily Cebu – Los Angeles service to make its product to North America more consistent, currently served 3 times a week, with Airbus A340-300 aircraft which will be returned to lessor. Last flight for this route which started March 2016 is scheduled on May 27, 2017. Passengers with existing reservations are re-routed via Manila.

Flight termination ends Cebu’s only nonstop Trans-Pacific service for now with future flight expected to resume in 2018 with the arrival of A350 aircraft both for Los Angeles and San Francisco.