Airlines In The Philippines III

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

Forget the wet lease. Concentrate more on the news that matters

Talks between the two airlines began earlier this year following a visit by Greenway and a flyadeal delegation to Manila to learn more about Cebu Pacific’s A330-900neo operations. flyadeal, the Middle East’s fastest growing airline, recently announced plans to venture into the long-haul market with an order for 10 A330 widebodies to be deployed between Saudi Arabia and the Philippines, and across southeast Asia from 2027.

Greenway said: “Today’s agreement is momentous as it marks flyadeal’s first ever strategic airline partnership. It was clear and obvious that flyadeal could learn a lot from Cebu Pacific’s experience of low-cost long-haul operations given we will be inducting the same A330-900neos into our fleet in just two years’ time. There are great benefits in sharing technical knowledge, training, and best practice in preparation for our A330 induction and, of course, we are both A320 operators.

Indeed, between Riyadh Air and Saudia, there will already be plenty of premium capacity. Cebpac-style neos will be perfect for transporting workers and hajj pilgrims en masse.

[JNC03]

Embraer execs are here and met with local airlines

[Evodesire]

I knew that PAL would again be beaten in its own homecourt, the international market, by Cebu Pacific. They were already beaten by UA in MNL-SFO sector and now, beaten in terms of international market from the Philippines.

Other factors that may cause PAL's continued downfall amidst leadership change:
-Inside culture of PAL and how the Tan family are currently running things
-The entry of DL into the MNL-LAX sector
-Cebu Pacific adding more capacity to the ME and Asia-Pacific region
-Not ordering new planes soon
-No clear forward directions

The impression of the general public now is that Cebu Pacific has overtaken PAL, and the clamor continues to grow for 5J to go transpac. While I know this will never happen, I am not discounting though that 5J could open a premium subsidiary (or use ATX's AOC) to go against PR/2P.

Finance-wise, they made a profit, but I doesn't mean that the should rest on their laurels and not adapt to the fast evolving industry.

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

5J CEO Szucs heaping praise on PAL and it's new President, Richard Nutall.

https://insiderph.com/cebu-pacific-chief-lauds-pals-more-rational-post-bankruptcy-strategy-new-boss

[Arianespace]

They are considering 3 points, RUH, JED, and DMM. That easily translates to 4 dedicated A339s when operating daily. Take note, KSA is where most Juan are, almost a million of them.

[AB350]

In the end of the day! It's the BOD who decided what PAL needs and what not. I also don't like it btw! But that is the truth PAL needs to be a viable investment so making profit is top priority. But at the sametime I also hope they aren't blindly by data and actually actually listen to public feedback to adjust their policy! I hate to be pessimistic (I refused to be one). However shouldn't be blinded myself too!

[Solblanc]

Arianespace wrote

They are considering 3 points, RUH, JED, and DMM. That easily translates to 4 dedicated A339s when operating daily. Take note, KSA is where most Juan are, almost a million of them.

PAL couldn’t make DMM work in the end. They do not compete with Saudia in JED, but they still fly to RUH. Riyadh air and Flyadeal might ease them out if they’re not careful.

PAL’s value-added would be its domestic network. So it’s really important to improve the connecting experience in Manila so they can stay competitive.

Between the luxury offerings of Riyadh air and Flyadeal threatening to dump capacity with a fully-packed NEO, PAL has to find its niche. And they will not win a race to the bottom.

[romantic_guy08]

Skyteam? You can check itinerary using frequent flyer of other airlines (mostly Skyteam members, DL, KE, VN, SV, SU, AR, AM, UX, AF, AZ, CI, MU, CZ, OK, GA, KQ, ME, RO, VN, MF) in the PAL website

[filipinoavgeek]

That makes little sense unless it's interline agreements. I doubt PAL would ever join Skyteam when it already has two SEA members (Garuda and Vietnam Airlines). Plus, apart from ANA which is Star Alliance, most of the airlines that PAL has partnerships with that are part of alliances are part of Oneworld. Think Cathay, American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, and soon Qatar. I know PAL has a codeshare with Vietnam Airlines, but still. If PAL is going to join an alliance it will almost certainly be Oneworld.

[Gustavo J Oppenheimer]

https://insiderph.com/insider-info-cebu-pacific-flips-the-script-in-a-first-for-aircraft-leasing

MNL-RUH

[JNC03]

Transportation Secretary Vince Dizon orders a crackdown on online travel agency “AirAsia Move” for allegedly overpricing trips from Tacloban to Manila amid the ongoing repair of the San Juanico Bridge.

A one-way ticket in the platform costs almost P40,000, Dizon says.

He also announced the government will file a criminal complaint for economic sabotage against AirAsia Move.

He also clarified AirAsia Philippines airlines is not involved in the gouging of ticket prices ⁩

[Arianespace]

Solblanc wrote

PAL couldn’t make DMM work in the end

I was talking to DMM bound OFW once on domestic route sometime in 2023. He said he always took the 1 stop route via MCT because the fare was always cheaper than PAL. $100 less. Thats big. Yet Oman air has better plane and nice IFE while PAL got kaput. Explains everything. The only thing good for PAL was direct flight, food and better service. Not enough to temper your boredom though.

[Arianespace]

And the victim was celebrity politician from Ormoc who happens to win seat in Congress. Bad days ahead for  its booking platform. I think Isla should offer concessions to him now. Because they gonna lose it in CAB when hearing starts.

[chowpau]

JNC03 wrote

Transportation Secretary Vince Dizon orders a crackdown on online travel agency “AirAsia Move” for allegedly overpricing trips from Tacloban to Manila amid the ongoing repair of the San Juanico Bridge.

A one-way ticket in the platform costs almost P40,000, Dizon says.

He also announced the government will file a criminal complaint for economic sabotage against AirAsia Move.

He also clarified AirAsia Philippines airlines is not involved in the gouging of ticket prices ⁩

Tried at my desktop. Made 2 mock booking tomorrow (June 4) flight Tacloban to Manila

[chowpau]

Direct flight Tacloban to Manila mock booking June 5 departure

[justhorace]

I understand AirAsia MOVE is essentially a separate entity, and operates solely as a travel agent, so I would assume that this would have properly been a DTI issue, not a DOTr one, right?

[Solblanc]

JNC03 wrote

Airbus increased MTOW of A330-900neo according to website, from 251T to 253T

Max ramp weight: 253.90 tonnes
Max take-off weight: 253.00 tonnes"

This seemed like an innocuous update, but Airbus even revised the range in their website. 7350nm vs 7200nm. If that’s the case, the A330-900 can now fly MNL-LHR and even MNL-LAX with a comfortable payload. Of course, the 787-9 will be preferred as it can do ORD and YYZ in case the A35Ks are too much, but the A339 can now grow SEA and return to LHR.

Too bad even A339 slots are running out. Vietjet just ordered 20 more.

[Arianespace]

justhorace wrote

I understand AirAsia MOVE is essentially a separate entity, and operates solely as a travel agent, so I would assume that this would have properly been a DTI issue, not a DOTr one, right?

Wrong. The one that has the License To Operate (LTO) is the airline and not its ticketing agent. Its like LTFRB for buses and jeepneys, and MARINA for ships. Agent is always the responsibility of the Principal.

[JNC03]

Other airlines are cheaper

[justhorace]

Yes, I agree. Air Asia has the LTO. But what I'm saying is that Air Asia MOVE is a separate corporate entity operating in the online travel agent space. It is like Booking.com, Expedia or Priceline. CAB/DOTr has jurisdiction over airlines. But does it have jurisdiction over travel agencies? I very much doubt that.