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cancellations due to unscheduled maintenance is not a valid claim for airlines. Because the event can be seen in advance for which an airline is anticipated to provide back up service for this eventuality. In the US, you always end up in hotel, while you wait. In the Philippines, you will end up nowhere waiting, unless you are a foreigner, as what was clearly demonstrated in one of the you tube blogs about PAL. Because they will always file a claim against airline back home. That is indicative of how nice we are as a people, even if we are already abused.
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There is different treatments for domestic and international flights (specially US flights where there are a lot of business travellers and foreigners)
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Remember, I told you seeking court compensation, here is the latest example of it.
See, our Laws are not toothless as anyone claims.
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I was talking about JAO No. 1 as an administrative instrument as toothless and not Civil, Commercial and Torts and Contract laws that we have... Of course, the courts are always a recourse... that was already exhibited as early as the Carrosco case vs Air France in 1969... the Philippines, is not a litigious country, and not everyone has the capacity, means, and the endurance to see a civil case through. Perfect example is the Glenn Soco case that took 11 years (CEB even used CAB's own ER to defend itself) for the RTC to decide... which for sure, CEB will appeal all the way to the SC otherwise, it will make them vulnerable to a flood of possible civil cases... This is not like in the U.S. where prolonged lawsuits are settled may be as early as two years... heck even PAL, settled the class action lawsuit filed against them in California for failure to provide refunds, even before trial started... The industry regulators should be given more teeth... and honestly, should be more stringent in enforcing these guidelines... honestly, the CAB is lackadaisical... they are dependent on airline reports... even in the senate hearing, 5J themselves, admitted to having not followed the APBR in denying check-in and denied boarding procedures. Airlines no longer auction of compensation during overbooking, passengers are either denied check-in, or IDBd even if its not allowed (we have too many stories of that around, latest of which was the lady Naval Officer and triathlete who was denied check-in by PAL for an overbooked flight from Cebu). Unlike in the U.S. where its easier for passengers to demand compensation from airlines in the event of cancellations or delays. Here, airlines will wear you out until the passenger themselves gives up... and that is where the regulator should come in. The U.S. DOT for example mandates airlines to promptly reimburse passengers (and by promptly it means within 7 days for credit cards). Here, its even taken more than two years for some to get refunds, and it seems the CAB is toothless to assist on this as this is still rampant. Just read all the follow-up on the PAL's post in FB or twitter... or even during the senate hearing. I for one filed a complaint before the CAB for the failure of PAL to adhere to the APBR... that complaint took almost a year to close... and what PAL got was not even a slap in the wrist... a Php 5,000 fine which is chump change for them. |
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Well, that was what the Law (RA 776, from 1956) says the fine would be for administrative action against airline in CAB. Here is a previous reiteration of similar circumstances, in 2012:
In fairness to CAB and ED Carmilo Arcilla, they are just following what the law (RA 776) from 1956 requires them to do. The penalty of 5,000 pesos (US$2,500) per violation is very exorbitant in 1956. Not anymore in today's peso value, and so the abuse. You are right in saying these needs to change, following EU and US protocols. Surprisingly, this bill was filed in Congress in 2012 and has not moved since, so DOTr did the next best thing, the APBR. And since APBR is made effective in 2012, it has since penalized CEB ₱52 million out of almost ₱80 million for all PH-based airlines, at this time. The monetary fine isn't enough at today's inflation figures. But CAB hands are tied to what penalty is prescribed. As to passenger side of things, timely compensation is a different matter altogether. And this is what our Congress refused to give us at this time. CAB has been knocking on Congress doors since 2012 to do something about this. Calling for a legislation similar to EU Regulation 261, where claim is automatic for every delayed, cancelled, or overbooked flights to the tune of €250, €400, or €600 per person, respectively. And very recently a call was made to update this law and the penalty here: https://youtu.be/bXMsdAbbeW0?t=5754 https://youtu.be/bXMsdAbbeW0?t=4784 https://youtu.be/bXMsdAbbeW0?t=12258 In other words, if Congress doesn't amend RA 776, you got two choices, APBR and civil claims. That is it. To cut the story short, if you don't have time to go to court and sue erring airlines, get the APBR. If you have the luxury of time pursue your case for damage claims. It might be a long process which takes years but the wait is well worth it. I should know. PAL paid us handsomely. I must admit, a new legislation similar to EC261 is still a better way for airlines to pay up passengers. You only need to prove delay, cancellation, or bumping, which CAB then cross-check to designated airport report files, if true. Then CAB pays you and they collects from the airline. Brilliant. Lets see what version Congress makes.
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Agreed...
We can only hope for stronger consumer protection laws to be legislated... That's why I am hoping that congress can strengthen the charter of the CAB to give them more wider power and leeway to set guidelines for airlines to follow... similar to the U.S. DOT. And for CAB to be more proactive in the work they do. I mean, rather than just waiting for the report from airlines or to accept complaints from the public, why can't they deploy personnel to the airports (they said they currently do). But it's as if they are just there for formality and doesn't do anything. They can at least be proactive to monitor flight disruptions and ensure and direct airlines to follow the APBR. Unfortunately, lackadaisical din. |
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